ability to add third and 4th and fith level secondary tags

RaheemKhanKhattak

i want ability to add third and 4th and fith level secondary tags ?

like lets suppose on you forum we have the primary category

feedback
Design secondary
Features secondary

now i want to further break down lets say ..

design
Themes third level
icon replacement Third level

and then further break down " themes : into 4th level , and then into 5th level .

is this possible ? Please guide .

clarkwinkelmann

RaheemKhanKhattak not possible in core in current version and I don't think it's planned to change it.

As pretty much anything else, it seems totally feasible via an extension.

Though I noticed while reading the core source code that most of the design is based on the fact one tag is either a parent or a child, and never both. For example the list of tags in the sidebar is not recursive, but hard-coded to parents, then children. This might be something that requires some work. Maybe that work could be put in core, leaving an extension taking care of just "allowing" more tags.

luceos

clarkwinkelmann the core ideology of @Toby related to the tags extension - if I remember correctly - has always been that someone might fork it or substitute it with a classical hierarchy.. Hence you could fork tags, add any number of nesting and provide the pages/components to work with that..

RaheemKhanKhattak

Thank you for your responses ,

As i have learned that this program is open source .
I have laravel developers inline with me , if i tell them , would it be possible for them to add this functionality ?

luceos

RaheemKhanKhattak I have laravel developers inline with me , if i tell them , would it be possible for them to add this functionality ?

Although knowledge about Laravel will bring in great skills for Flarum in the end you will also need knowledge about frontend SPA frameworks. Flarum is created with Mithrill, which really is a slim javascript framework. But you'll need to understand and have experience with JS frameworks for Single Page Applications (SPA's).

RaheemKhanKhattak Also i do not see any means to embed a video link or images [..]

There's a media embed extension.

RaheemKhanKhattak typing tools , like available on other forums .

Where can we find and purchase these full extensions ?

Although Flarum is yet beta, there are plenty of people using it in production. Having said that the extension ecosystem is still a little sprout compared to other forum software. A more stable extension landscape can be expected after the release of Flarum beta 8 and I hope that my side project for premium extensions will ensure extension developers stick around longer.

RaheemKhanKhattak

Also i do not see any means to embed a video link or images , or typing tools , like available on other forums .

Where can we find and purchase these full extensions ?

RaheemKhanKhattak

my developer is stating that if we build this forum on the current beta version then we will be forever be stuck with this version only , with all customization we make .

plus he says that whenever they make changes , to the core , it gets removed during the compilation process .
and they are advising against this platform altogether . what do you recommend , i really like the simplicity and feature set of this platform . but if we cannot add our own customization like this third and fourth level sub categories , its getting tough . Please advise .

jordanjay29

RaheemKhanKhattak First, I would invite your developers to come to our community to discuss their concerns, because what they've expressed is not correct. Flarum is built to be easily extensible, and many members of our community have built their own extensions for their and the community's use. If your developers are already familiar with php and js coding, then creating an extension for the Flarum customizations you desire should be within their capabilities.

Yes, if changes are made directly to the core, they will get removed on updates. This is why Flarum is written to encourage the use of extensions, and makes it possible for deep changes to be made via the extension API. Our next version, beta 8, will make significant changes to the extension API that will break current extensions (though many have already been rewritten and are prepared for the changes) but should not have any backwards breaking changes thereafter in our beta period, so if your developers base their customizations on Beta 8 there should be no problem keeping them working in the future.

Hope that helps your decision-making process.

RaheemKhanKhattak

yes Jordan it really did , just these last things please clarify .

lets say if we build the platform on the current system add our customizations . would they be lost if we try to upgrade to the beta 8 version ? and we shall not be able to migrate with our full set of customizations .
how long beta version 8 shall be out so we may decide to wait until it comes out and then we may go ahead and build on the new beta 8 as it sounds more stable .
specifically , third and fourth level category making (the original question) , is it possible to execute this customization , without disturbing the core level programming ? and would we be able to migrate to beta 8 easily keeping this customized feature in specific ?

i m calling my developer on the same board to discuss matter with you . and your help is greatly appreciated in this regards . Many thanks .

jordanjay29

Correct, the extensions would have to be rewritten (as other current extensions will need) before they can work on Beta 8. The code itself won't be lost, but the extensions and the functionality it provides will not be available until rewritten to work with Beta 8.
It's pretty close, but I cannot give you an exact date.
Yes. In fact, the Tags feature itself is an extension. It would not affect Flarum at all if you decided to fork it, extend the levels tags can be nested to, and used your forked extension instead of the official one. As far as migration, see my answer to #1.

RaheemKhanKhattak

jordanjay29 Correct, the extensions would have to be rewritten (as other current extensions will need) before they can work on Beta 8. The code itself won't be lost, but the extensions and the functionality it provides will not be available until rewritten to work with Beta 8.

so that means a little tweak up and the same extension written previously shall be good to go with the same code . sound ok to me . i hope the developer doesn't raise hell and make it sound like its outrageous .

jordanjay29 It's pretty close, but I cannot give you an exact date.

do not provide an exact date , but an estimated time ? like 1 month or two months just approximate values we need to structure our work flow . if you cannot no issues .

jordanjay29 Yes. In fact, the Tags feature itself is an extension. It would not affect Flarum at all if you decided to fork it, extend the levels tags can be nested to, and used your forked extension instead of the official one. As far as migration, see my answer to #1.

am i understanding correct that we shall have to develop our own dedicated extension written for flarum specifically , in order for it to work on the current version . and then when beta 8 comes out . a little tweak shall make it compatible for the beta 8 as well ?

i do not understand the concept of nesting pardon me for that ...i m not a programmer so cannot speak in programming language just consider myself as a layman . rest letme call my developer here and i m greatly thankful for your assistance . in this regard . meanwhile please guide me to the media embed extention .

luceos

RaheemKhanKhattak meanwhile please guide me to the media embed extention

https://flagrow.io/extensions you can search all extensions, even see compatibility with the upcoming version.

? Can't quote easily multiple times on mobile.

A specific time range for release cannot be given. We take the time we need to deliver a decent product in our own free time. Giving out any ETA and not being able to keep to it is a bad way of treating your community.

I'd suggest holding off on developing your extensions until beta 8 arrives, this allows your developer to learn only one api instead of having to do a minor upgrade and learning about the new extenders.

Please note there have been plenty examples of companies using a customized Flarum for their own needs, my current favorite is https://together.bunq.com a large Dutch fintech.

RaheemKhanKhattak

luceos thank for sharing this forum , they have designed it just like discourse . And this is what i actually wanted to be honest . My first choice in UI was discourse, ruby rail made me drop it .

Btw just a sugesstion that u people musy develop a white label mobile app for this software .

And i am very grateful for your kind help . THANK YOU