Internet Explorer issues?

Mayhem

I've noticed that this community forum runs just fine in Internet Explorer. However, my test forum behaves differently (I'm using Flaurm v0.1.0-beta.9).

If I click on a discussion title, it just show the loading cogwheel and that's it.

The console shows this error :
SCRIPT438: Object doesn't support property or method 'startsWith'
forum-3d259d40.js (533,1813)

If I navigate to the admin panel, I see :
SCRIPT1002: Syntax error
admin-f0f2957a.js (72,1908)
SCRIPT5007: Unable to get property 'app' of undefined or null reference
admin-en-bf6862e3.js (1,1)
SCRIPT5007: Unable to get property 'app' of undefined or null reference
admin (93,17)

Now if I use a different web browser (Edge, Chrome, FF) the forum loads and works just fine.

I'm assuming this community forum is running a later version than what's available for us?

Mayhem

Ok, I cleared the cache this time after enabling / disabling the plugins one by one and found the issues.

The statistics plugin is preventing the IE browser from loading the administration panel.
Statistics v0.1.0-beta.9 - Add a basic statistics widget on the Dashboard.

The FoF Share Social plugin prevent threads/discussions from loading in IE.
FoF Share Social v0.1.1 - Add a button to share discussions through social networks

Prosperous

Good news, thanks for posting your solution as well. May I consider this solved now?

tankerkiller125

There are many issues with flarum in IE, there are also some bug reports in the Github tracker for IE that generate no JS errors which makes them hard to debug and resolve. Normally I would say IE is dead and unsupported so why should we support it, but at the same time I understand that some people have to use IE due to work restrictions or for other reasons (such has US trade bans).

datitisev

Mayhem Looks like we (Flarum) have to fix Statistics not working in IE, and FriendsOfFlarum fix Share Social.

What is the error that you get when loading the admin page though ? You only mentioned the error with Share Social.

Do remember, only IE 11 is officially supported by Flarum ~~but all versions are considered dead by everyone~~.

Mayhem

datitisev

SCRIPT1002: Syntax error
admin-61b6426b.js (100,1908)
SCRIPT5007: Unable to get property 'app' of undefined or null reference
admin-en-e5dfd36d.js (1,1)
SCRIPT5007: Unable to get property 'app' of undefined or null reference
admin (93,17)

tankerkiller125

datitisev Do remember, only IE 11 is officially supported by Flarum but all versions are considered dead by everyone.

Important note is that Microsoft is now hiding IE from users by default (Instead showing Edge) and as another note Internet Explorer 11 is now a option windows feature (Turn Windows features on or off menu) which means that Microsoft could if they wanted too completely disable IE11 by default. Also with windows 7 officially being EOL come January the number of installations with IE installed by default will drop quite a bit.

On another note I'd be interested to know just how many people actually use Flarum with IE11 based on the global stats I would expect to see less than 3% using it in which case I think we should start a discussion as to whether a large amount of development time (it will be a large amount of time) should be spent trying to support less than 3% of users.

Something else I want to point out (like this article does is that if developers continue to try to support IE users companies and other people will continue to use IE11 despite security risk and all of the broken features/css. These companies and people will only stop using IE11 when enough sites decide that it is time to stop supporting it. It is my honest opinion that the only sites/developers that should be trying to support IE11 are the search engines and even then they should have a plan to stop supporting it.

jordanjay29

tankerkiller125 It's worth the question, as even Microsoft considers IE11 only a compatibility solution these days, not a fully compliant, secure browser.

Probably a better question for a general discussion or Github issue, though.

tankerkiller125

jordanjay29 I've posted a new topic to discuss this, I think we need more community input than what I've seen so far on Github (just browsing through issues) it seems that Github is where extension developers and core developers hash out issues and discussions where the forums tend to have the vast majority of people who use Flarum in production and would actually feel the most impact of this decision. https://discuss.flarum.org/d/21186-ie-11-support-needed