Spam prevention

Justoverclock

MarkoK

Justoverclock I've had same issues on flarum.fi and Mass Actions helps with message deletion. Users must be deleted one by one still.

Justoverclock

MarkoK yes this is for sure an options, but what i mean is to have a single action from admin and mod to completely clean, ban and suspend user

MikeJones

Justoverclock yes this is for sure an options, but what i mean is to have a single action from admin and mod to completely clean, ban and suspend user

this would be amazing!

Post approval is blocking spam for me great! But man its becoming a pain to mark the user as spam then delete the all the posts as well. I 100% here you!

luceos

v1.2.1 fixes the issue that duplicate flags were added when edited

CyberGene

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it appears that all new users go through an approval. I just registered a brand new test user to my forum and posted the following post:

Bach is underrated.

And that was flagged for approval. Is this expected? I'm just noticing that all new users on our forum go through an approval, so something is definitely not right but I'm trying to understand what exactly.

P.S. I also have the auto-moderator and it differentiates between newly registered users (less than 5 posts) and regular users (more than 5 posts) and I have limited new users to require an approval for posts in the "Politics" tag but the post was not in such a discussion. Maybe the permissions are not working correctly?

P.P.S. Is there any logging performed by this extension to see whether it was triggered and for what criteria?

P.P.S.2 @luceos, something is really odd. If I'm a new user that posts Bach is underrated. that post is held for an approval. I then post a second post Bach is my favorite composer. and that is posted without an approval. Then I post a third post after the other two Bach is undertated. and it's held for an approval 😀 Basically I have three posts one after another, the first and the third are held for an approval, the second is OK. Is the word underrated somehow detected as a bad word or something?

CyberGene

Well, something is really wrong with the word underrated apparently 🤣

Ralkage

CyberGene do you have any of the post filter extensions installed by chance?

CyberGene

Ralkage no, the only extensions that are close to checking content are the text formatter and the Rich Embeds.

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luceos

The sentence is fairly short. It might be the case that it doesn't understand underrated as English. You can easily reduce the number of checked posts to make this less of a moderative burden if it starts to annoy.

CyberGene

luceos ahh, that explains things then. Is length of posts (number of words?) checked too? Also is language detection a dictionary check or character encoding?

Darkle

Probably not related to this extension, maybe with Approval (?), but when approving a post (within a discussion) that has been detected as spam, the user appears to have 0 post in their profile, I have checked and with the users that have been approved their posts like this, they always appear with 0 posts, even if they have 2 posts... Is there any way to fix it?

r4nchy

We need a system where we can even ban the proxy IP addresses, I don't want to waste a single time moderating the discussions that are coming from proxy servers/ips. Do we have that in place ?

because the spammers may use proxy servers to do this shenanigan

luceos

r4nchy I have considered setting up something similar to stopforumspam but dedicated for Flarum. If this is happening it won't be this year though, too many other things going on.

r4nchy

luceos good to hear that it is being though of 🙂

Lurker

luceos We've fine tuned spam prevention to reduce the necessary effort with moderation. I will do my best to improve the extension based on our experiences here on discuss and our experiences on our managed hosting.

Thank you for offering this to the public. Well done! 👍🏼

Does this extension use the same database from stopforumspam? If yes, that’s great! If not, I was wondering if I should install that extension along with this to make the fight against spam even better. My only concern is the incompatibility issue reported between stopforumspam and spamblock (see here).

luceos

Lurker Does this extension use the same database from stopforumspam? If yes, that’s great! If not, I was wondering if I should install that extension along with this to make the fight against spam even better. My only concern is the incompatibility issue reported between stopforumspam and spamblock (see here).

This extension can work with sfs, if it is installed it will use that extension to delete users with subjects of discussions containing spam. This extension doesn't independently use the sfs database or its api.

m4v3rick

Lurker My only concern is the incompatibility issue reported between stopforumspam and spamblock (see here).

Both together are still not working for me. Same error as described.

Lurker

luceos fof/spamblock - optional, when enabled immediately deletes users that open discussions with spam subjects

So it works with both FoF/Spamblock and FoF/Stopforumspam. Wonderful!

For the extend.php section, let’s say I already have contents inside the return [ ];, do I create another return line or can I just add this (new Spam\Filter) to the list?

Example:

return [
    (existing contents)
          // other info
    (new Spam\Filter)
          // use domain name
          ->allowLinksFromDomain
];

Thanks for the help!

clarkwinkelmann

Lurker that's correct, you add it inside the existing []. Two return wouldn't work. Don't forget to put commas between each extender since this is a PHP array.

luceos

Lurker So it works with both FoF/Spamblock and FoF/Stopforumspam. Wonderful!

No. My explanation was not good enough. This extension interacts with Spamblock if its installed and Spamblock interacts with SFS if its installed.

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