Is there an extension that allows user groups to go into backend management?

xiaoxiaobai5724

Look at the title.

clarkwinkelmann

Can you provide more details ? What are you trying to achieve ?

The admin panel is only accessible to users with the admin group. It doesn't make sense to give access to users with lower privilege, as the features on the admin panel are admin-level.

For aesthetics you can make the admin group hidden and give additional visible roles to your admin users if you want them to have different role names when viewed by visitors.

xiaoxiaobai5724

clarkwinkelmann Can you provide more details ? What are you trying to achieve ?

Hello, I mean is there an extension to add a button to the "Permissions" tab to manage in the background. Please recommend it to me if you have one.

clarkwinkelmann

xiaoxiaobai5724 can you describe the actual use case you are trying to solve? What kind of ability do you want to give to which subgroup of users? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem

xiaoxiaobai5724

clarkwinkelmann Is there an extension that allows a user group to have the same permissions as an administrator? (Simply put, cloning an administrator)

html5syt

e...Maybe he thinks that He wanted to look for plugins that would allow multiple user groups to access the background and separately manage which parts of the background each user group could access, in order to offload some of the work of managing the forum to someone else.

luceos

xiaoxiaobai5724 no. And why would you want that? You can assign them the admin permission anyway?

User31

luceos

😄Yeah aye, it seems quite bizarre to me too.

I just thought to mention that I've read several of Xiaoxiaobai5724's posts today and from these I gather that English probably isn't Xiaoxiaobai5724's primary language, so it may be possible we are currently participant to a minor communication hurdle.

I'm fluent in English and to me Xiaoxiaobai5724's original discussion title + 2nd & 3rd replies all seem to imply communicating exactly the same as yourself(luceos), clarkwinkelmann & html5syt have interpreted, ie: that Xiaoxiaobai5724 would like an dedicated extension/or alternative means to enable giving regular members full administrative access.

Which, again, to me seems quite bizarre and extremely risky.
Therefore I'm thinking Xiaoxiaobai5724 may be intending to mean something different than what it would appear to us and instead Xiaoxiaobai5724 may potentially be having difficulty effectively communicating what they're actually trying to ask.
I realize clarkwinkelmann has already requested further clarification, subsequently without such as yet being provided by Xiaoxiaobai5724, which begs the question: (why not?)

Regardless, it seems you have now answered the original question-(as it would generally be interpreted by anyone fluent with English)-that there is no such extension.

@xiaoxiaobai5724 may I ask whether you have considered creating a secondary/or sub-admin group to achieve your intended goal here?
(This would make a little more sense because this way you'd be able to control and limit whatever access allowances are granted for members of this group, rather than simply allowing for unrestricted administrative access—(😄which would be very risky in my opinion)

xiaoxiaobai5724

User31 I just thought to mention that I've read several of Xiaoxiaobai5724's posts today and from these I gather that English probably isn't Xiaoxiaobai5724's primary language, so it may be possible we are currently participant to a minor communication hurdle.

Yes, it's true that English is not my primary language. Back to the point, after determination, the final answer: no such extension.

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User31
emm...
I know the idea of Xiaoxiaobai5724, and he/she wants to let users of other user groups with specific permissions also access the management panelInstead of only the highest-permission user group can access the management panel.
The main language of Xiaoxiaobai5724 is Chinese. He/she is translated from Chinese to English, and I can also speak Chinese, so I understand his/her meaning.

luceos

User31 may I ask whether you have considered creating a secondary/or sub-admin group to achieve your intended goal here?

This isn't possible. So please don't recommend it.
You cannot create a permission group that gains access to the admin area of Flarum at all. In Flarum you either are an admin or you are not. Being an admin implies you always have all permissions. Where other permission groups go through permission checks from core and from extensions, admins fully/completely sidestep each and every permission check that code could demand from other groups. Admin always have all permissions.

xiaoxiaobai5724 Back to the point, after determination, the final answer: no such extension.

Correct. I personally don't even know an extension could be created to mimic the logic, because the admin permission is deeply nested in the code of Flarum. As said above, all permission groups go through permission checks and extensions can apply restrictions that natively don't apply to admins. Trying to build an extension that circumvents the permissions checks in the same way for a specific permission group would be like carrying water to the sea; for every extension that adds some restriction you would need to try to combat that.

User31

luceos

Yeah man I understand what you are saying there for sure.
I can assure you that it is not at all what I was suggesting.

ernestdefoe

I remember in the old vBulletin days you had Super Admin that was configured in the config file and those Super Admin couldn't be deleted unless you removed their member ID number from the config file. That kept someone from trying to take over your site.