notifications go to minus number

ikkeT

Funny small detail I noticed today. I had unread posts at my forum. While I clicked around to see them, the notification count in the up right corner went to -2 😁. Not a serious issue, but funny detail. After refreshing the page it was 0 as it should.

1.8 all up to date installation. Android FF.

KBExit

ikkeT hmm, I haven't witnessed this myself. Do you have a php Flarum info for us to review what your setup looks like?

GreXXL

ikkeT could be an issue with either your queue setup, or with any websocket implementation that you are running. If you share your php flarum info this might shed some light.

ikkeT

Took a moment to figure out how to get it from hosting without ssh. But here it is:

Flarum core: 1.8.11
PHP version: 8.3.28
MySQL version: 10.11.14-MariaDB-0+deb12u2
Loaded extensions: Core, date, libxml, openssl, pcre, sqlite3, zlib, bcmath, bz2, calendar, ctype, curl, dba, dom, hash, fileinfo, filter, ftp, gd, gettext, gmp, json, iconv, SPL, intl, session, ldap, mbstring, mcrypt, standard, mysqlnd, pcntl, exif, mysqli, PDO, pdo_dblib, PDO_Firebird, pdo_mysql, PDO_ODBC, pdo_pgsql, pdo_sqlite, pgsql, Phar, posix, random, readline, Reflection, imap, SimpleXML, soap, sockets, sodium, sysvmsg, sysvsem, sysvshm, tidy, timezonedb, tokenizer, xml, xmlreader, xmlwriter, xsl, zip, imagick, apcu, OAuth, ssh2, Zend OPcache
+------------------------------+---------+--------+
| Flarum Extensions            |         |        |
+------------------------------+---------+--------+
| ID                           | Version | Commit |
+------------------------------+---------+--------+
| flarum-flags                 | v1.8.2  |        |
| flarum-approval              | v1.8.2  |        |
| flarum-tags                  | v1.8.5  |        |
| sycho-private-facade         | v0.1.16 |        |
| fof-upload                   | 1.8.7   |        |
| fof-subscribed               | 1.1.4   |        |
| fof-polls                    | 2.3.1   |        |
| fof-doorman                  | 2.0.0   |        |
| fof-discussion-views         | 1.0.0   |        |
| fof-default-user-preferences | 1.2.2   |        |
| flarum-suspend               | v1.8.4  |        |
| flarum-subscriptions         | v1.8.1  |        |
| flarum-sticky                | v1.8.2  |        |
| flarum-statistics            | v1.8.1  |        |
| flarum-nicknames             | v1.8.2  |        |
| flarum-mentions              | v1.8.5  |        |
| flarum-markdown              | v1.8.1  |        |
| flarum-lock                  | v1.8.2  |        |
| flarum-likes                 | v1.8.1  |        |
| flarum-lang-swedish          | 1.1.1   |        |
| flarum-lang-finnish          | v1.17.0 |        |
| flarum-lang-english          | v1.8.0  |        |
| flarum-extension-manager     | v1.0.7  |        |
| flarum-emoji                 | v1.8.1  |        |
| flarum-bbcode                | v1.8.0  |        |
| clarkwinkelmann-passwordless | 2.0.0   |        |
| blomstra-database-queue      | 1.1.0   |        |
| askvortsov-pwa               | v3.4.1  |        |
| askvortsov-markdown-tables   | v1.2.1  |        |
+------------------------------+---------+--------+
Queue driver: database
Session driver: file
Scheduler status: Aktiivinen
Mail driver: smtp
Debug mode: off

ikkeT

Queue is db, and pwa for websockets.

KBExit

ikkeT web socket would be either Pusher, Third-party iteration of Pusher, or Realtime. I don't think you have any of that enabled.
Also see you have Database Qeue.
Do you not have SSH or you do but choose not to use it? If you don't use it, how did you install Flarum? Was it softaculous?
I don't see any red flags that could cause the behavior you mentioned though.
Curious, have you waited at least a minute to see if the results change? I wonder if it's because the database qeue isn't instantaneous.
Also, do you have scheduler cron enabled?

ikkeT

I took hetzner webhosting. The smallest one does not have ssh access. I installed flarum using sftp. I do have a cron, and use that to run queue every minute. I also put commands to end of that cron script to do things like daily backup of files and sql dump, and now this flarum info.

This -2 was more like funny detail. It went away after refresh. I didn't wait for a cron minute interval. It doesn't really bother me, just a funny bug to spot if someone wants to have a look.

GreXXL

ikkeT this was a bug with websockets back when Flarum was in Beta (https://discuss.flarum.org/d/17518-negative-notifications/). But as @KBExit mentioned you do not have any setup. I do also see nothing unusual with your setup. Please monitor and inform us if this happens again.

Capybara

My users also encountered this bug back in 1.8.5. It’s very minor and very rare, so I didn’t pay much attention to it — it happened maybe three times over six months

KBExit

Capybara it's an encouragement to post more for your users!

Silvestrus

It happens all the time on my forum. I got used to live with it. :-)

Using Pusher.

KBExit

Silvestrus no kidding! What's your php Flarum info like?

Silvestrus

It is random. I couldn't pin point to some pattern why does it happen?

Flarum core: 1.8.11
PHP version: 8.3.27
MySQL version: 10.6.23-MariaDB-cll-lve-log
Loaded extensions: Core, date, libxml, openssl, pcre, sqlite3, zlib, bz2, calendar, ctype, curl, hash, filter, ftp, gettext, json, iconv, SPL, pcntl, random, readline, Reflection, session, standard, mbstring, shmop, SimpleXML, tokenizer, xml, i360, bcmath, brotli, dom, fileinfo, gd, gmp, igbinary, imagick, imap, intl, exif, mcrypt, memcached, mysqlnd, mysqli, PDO, pdo_mysql, pdo_pgsql, pdo_sqlite, pgsql, Phar, soap, tidy, xmlreader, xmlrpc, xmlwriter, xsl, zip, Zend OPcache
+-------------------------------------+--------------+--------+
| Flarum Extensions                   |              |        |
+-------------------------------------+--------------+--------+
| ID                                  | Version      | Commit |
+-------------------------------------+--------------+--------+
| flarum-tags                         | v1.8.5       |        |
| flarum-flags                        | v1.8.2       |        |
| v17development-seo                  | v2.0.9       |        |
| flarum-gdpr                         | 1.0.0-beta.3 |        |
| flarum-approval                     | v1.8.2       |        |
| flarum-suspend                      | v1.8.4       |        |
| flarum-sticky                       | v1.8.2       |        |
| flarum-lock                         | v1.8.2       |        |
| fof-sitemap                         | 2.4.1        |        |
| afrux-forum-widgets-core            | v0.1.7       |        |
| flarum-nicknames                    | v1.8.2       |        |
| fof-oauth                           | 1.7.2        |        |
| fof-byobu                           | 1.4.3        |        |
| flarum-mentions                     | v1.8.5       |        |
| flarum-subscriptions                | v1.8.1       |        |
| sycho-move-posts                    | v0.1.8       |        |
| v17development-blog                 | v0.8.0       |        |
| flarum-likes                        | v1.8.1       |        |
| webbinaro-calendar                  | 1.7.0        |        |
| walsgit-external-links-in-new-tab   | 1.1.2        |        |
| the-turk-stickiest                  | 3.0.1        |        |
| justoverclock-last-users-posts      | 0.3.0        |        |
| justoverclock-last-registered-users | 0.1.5        |        |
| justoverclock-custom-html-widget    | 0.1.4        |        |
| justoverclock-auto-post-count-badge | 1.0.0        |        |
| ianm-syndication                    | 1.3.4        |        |
| ianm-online-guests                  | 1.0.0        |        |
| huseyinfiliz-traderfeedback         | v1           |        |
| huseyinfiliz-sticky-title           | v1.8         |        |
| huseyinfiliz-modern-footer          | v1.1         |        |
| huseyinfiliz-custom-profile-page    | 1.0          |        |
| fof-username-request                | 1.2.4        |        |
| fof-user-directory                  | 1.4.1        |        |
| fof-user-bio                        | 1.4.2        |        |
| fof-upload                          | 1.8.7        |        |
| fof-socialprofile                   | 1.2.0        |        |
| fof-share-social                    | 1.2.0        |        |
| fof-recaptcha                       | 1.3.5        |        |
| fof-reactions                       | 1.4.1        |        |
| fof-polls                           | 2.3.1        |        |
| fof-nightmode                       | 1.6.0        |        |
| fof-moderator-notes                 | 1.3.0        |        |
| fof-links                           | 1.4.0        |        |
| fof-linguist                        | 1.1.6        |        |
| fof-ignore-users                    | 1.2.1        |        |
| fof-formatting                      | 1.1.2        |        |
| fof-follow-tags                     | 1.2.9        |        |
| fof-drafts                          | 1.2.13       |        |
| fof-discussion-views                | 1.0.0        |        |
| fof-cookie-consent                  | 1.1.3        |        |
| fof-anti-spam                       | 1.1.4        |        |
| flarum-statistics                   | v1.8.1       |        |
| flarum-pusher                       | v1.8.1       |        |
| flarum-markdown                     | v1.8.1       |        |
| flarum-lang-english                 | v1.8.0       |        |
| flarum-lang-croatian                | dev-master   |        |
| flarum-extension-manager            | v1.0.7       |        |
| flarum-bbcode                       | v1.8.0       |        |
| ecnu-im-sticky-sidenav              | v1.1.0       |        |
| dem13n-topic-starter-label          | 0.1.8        |        |
| datlechin-link-preview              | v1.6.0       |        |
| darkle-fancybox                     | 2.1.0        |        |
| clarkwinkelmann-post-bookmarks      | 1.0.0        |        |
| clarkwinkelmann-emojionearea        | 1.1.1        |        |
| askvortsov-pwa                      | v3.4.1       |        |
| askvortsov-moderator-warnings       | v0.6.3       |        |
| askvortsov-markdown-tables          | v1.2.1       |        |
| afrux-online-users-widget           | v0.1.9       |        |
| afrux-forum-stats-widget            | v0.1.1       |        |
| acpl-mobile-tab                     | 1.4.5        |        |
| acpl-lscache                        | v3.3.2       |        |
+-------------------------------------+--------------+--------+
Base URL: https://audiofil.org
Installation path: /home/audiofilorg/public_html
Queue driver: sync
Session driver: file
Scheduler status: Aktivan
Mail driver: smtp
Debug mode: off

GreXXL

Silvestrus it might be a bug in flarum/pusher that has already been addressed in realtime. It's been long since I have seen the notification bug appear on any Flarum installation I am active. That said: none of them are using flarum/pusher. What's speaking against this is that ikkeT isn't using that extension.

As I think I previously mentioned Silvestrus - I recommend that you setup DB-queues (https://discuss.flarum.org/d/28151-database-queue-the-simplest-queue-even-for-shared-hosting) which is as easy as installing and activating the extension.

For both @ikkeT and @Silvestrus is this also happening when you switch to English and not use a Flarum language pack? This might be something both of you are using.

Silvestrus

GreXXL As I think I previously mentioned Silvestrus - I recommend that you setup DB-queues (https://discuss.flarum.org/d/28151-database-queue-the-simplest-queue-even-for-shared-hosting) which is as easy as installing and activating the extension.

I did and I got random slowdowns after that. So I decided to revert back to file system. It could be DB-queues issue or not, I'm not sure, but I don't have slowdowns anmyore.

I'm pretty flexible and I don't report many issues that I have found since I know that it could be conflict with some of the other extensions or whatever... Big ones, I report. Small ones like notifications going into minus, I don't care that much. It is small issue.

Capybara

I’d like to note that the error disappeared when I switched to using Redis instead of a File, but I’m not sure if it’s actually related. Just an observation

KBExit

Capybara Could very well be the case since all my flarum instances by default: mine and my clients, all get REDIS straight out of the box. Hence why I never noticed it.

Silvestrus Big ones, I report. Small ones like notifications going into minus, I don't care that much. It is small issue.

100 small issues become 10 big issues 🙂 By reporting this behavior, we may get something more polished in the future.