Flagrow guardian an additional security layer

Toby

Good discussion. Sorry about my bluntness, but:

User list will be in core, just like the discussion list. It will have plenty of extension points so extensions can add/change information and functionality. It will most likely be a part of the main forum interface (rather than admin CP), with extra functions integrated for admins, as @Dominion has alluded to.

Whether or not a feature will be a part of core vs. a bundled extension is a philosophical discussion, one which is at the core of Flarum's direction and that I've obviously thought about a lot. But this thread is probably not the place to have it. Still, I will quickly and specifically reply to Kulga's points...

I think you are making a couple of incorrect assumptions:

That the core user list will need to be replaced by a completely new user list in order to be useful. While it no doubt will be quite basic at first, it will get more powerful over time, and it will contain extension points so extensions can add their own power.
That if you do want to replace it with something completely different, you'd have two user lists running side-by-side. In fact, you could just overwrite the default user list. Flarum is a JS app, so you can just associate a new component with the route. Only disadvantage is that the JS file would contain a dozen or so KB of unused code.

Whereas, the disadvantage to having a bundled "basic user list" extension is that you end up with dependency hell (again as @Dominion points out). In my eyes there is no philosophical difference in wanting to extract the discussion list into a "basic discussion list" extension.

Please create a new thread if you want to continue this discussion 🙂

Averell

Toby, It will most likely be a part of the main forum interface (rather than admin CP)

Please don't do that ! I want to run a private forum, with different levels, and cannot accept that any newbie who sign in the forum can see the users list otherwise pseudo is mandatory, and due to the type of the forum, we prefer to use real names. To be simple, I need that the user list is reserved to admins. Access to all users should be an option.
But perhaps I misunderstood what you said.

luceos

Averell Toby didn't actually explain any specifics, but I can imagine that the list will be protected with a permission, no worries 😉

christophermancini

Yea, like Luceos said, it would be trivial to restrict the user list to a specific user group as long as the proper permissions are setup.

Nuul

Perhaps add a function called: Mass delete users. Here you can auto select users that (for instance) never posted since user creation after x months. This is very handy to keep your db and forum clean. Perhaps even an option to have this set periodically. Ofcourse more options could be added.

Or is this better as a plugin?

Dominion

Nuul Perhaps add a function called: Mass delete users. Here you can auto select users that (for instance) never posted since user creation after x months. This is very handy to keep your db and forum clean. Perhaps even an option to have this set periodically. Ofcourse more options could be added.

That sounds like a handy function to have in Guardian, and would justify having a backend user list UI separate from the one that Toby plans to add.

Ignivis

Hi, I installed Guardian on beta4, but when I enter to the guardian page in the admin panel, I get error

400 Bad Request
GET http://forum.mysite.com/api/users?sort=username&page%5Blimit%5D=20&page%5Boffset%5D=0

{
  "errors": [
    []
  ]
}

No users listed. What can be wrong?

luceos

Ignivis What can be wrong?

I'm not sure, have you tried this with debug on (in your config.php)?

datitisev

? Love it @luceos. This should have been added to flarum/core since the Ice Age ?
But of course, other priorities come first ?

Ignivis

luceos I have debug ON and the code which I wrote is what I get in the debug modal window

7h3ev1l

I just installed it and when i click Details for me i dont get anything button is inactive for few seconds and nothing.

jordanjay29

7h3ev1l

luceos Please note the button does not do anything, you can use the link behind the username to visit the profile (and activate, as per request).

justshipit

Simple and does the job. No more trips to database to check the users!

UX suggestion: a small counter, perhaps on the top showing number of registered users.

ArjunChandran

Will this work on current flarum version, i mean beta 5 ?

justshipit

ArjunChandran it works, although has few layout glitches ?

7h3ev1l

luceos Hey, im trying to modify sorting to list first latest registered users
i changed

this.sorting = 'id';

But is not working for some reason.. Any ideas?

luceos

7h3ev1l honestly.. No, it was a fight to get a basic userlist working.

This extension will be abandoned because at some point user listing will be part of core and this extension will need major refactoring. I don't have the time to maintain it till then and have to consider by then whether I will bring it back.

lasharela

I updated forum and reinstall this plugin but I still see untranslated phrases (like "HYN-GUARDIAN.ADMIN.GRID.USER.JOINED_AT HYN-GUARDIAN.ADMIN.GRID.USER.LAST_SEEN_AT HYN-GUARDIAN.ADMIN.GRID.USER.ACTIVATED HYN-GUARDIAN.ADMIN.GRID.USER.BADGES). This is not big issue but I want to see users details (emails especially - but I can't) ?

bane

lasharela This Extension was abandoned, my dude.

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