Notifications on freeflarum

PaulArenson

luceos

Okay let's go over this. Please provide a list of all installed extensions first. When you are asking for support we need more information. Also this is on a site hosted on freeflarum.com? Can you add the link to that forum?

PaulArenson

Thank you. The address is https://galeexec.freeflarum.com

The list of installed extensions (with a checkmark) is
Akismet, BBCode, Details, Emoji, English, Flagrow Byōbu, Likes, Lock, Markdown, Markdown Editor, Media Embed, Mentions, Sticky, Subscriptions, Summaries, Suspend, Tags.

(The original intention is that people get everything automatically. I know some call that spam, but we want all members to be aware of all topics, so for now only I plan to create the topics based on what they want and I have to remind them to subscribe or they will miss. For that reason, it is imperative that they get some email notification of all activity. I have since found I had had APPROVAL installed, and that seemed to be the MAIN problem. I uninstalled, but I am not sure users can get notifications of all activity.)

I just got this from Willem De Groot on Free Flarum, which seems to mean all notifications are NOT by email.

ME--> If I send a message (using byōbu extension) to a user, the user does not always get an email notifying them. They have to log in and see their notification. Likewise if I am sending a reply to a discussion thread and I try to tag the user with@user, no email is consistently received.

Willem---> Only for the first notification a mail is sent. Further notifications are only disaplayed on the server when the user logs in. This is intended behavior.

So if that is the case, does this mean that there is no way to make sure a user is informed all all new things? (The main purpose of having a forum where people forget to check)

Thanks!!!

luceos

PaulArenson Willem---> Only for the first notification a mail is sent. Further notifications are only disaplayed on the server when the user logs in. This is intended behavior. So if that is the case, does this mean that there is no way to make sure a user is informed all all new things?

From a quick scan of the source code it does seem to be that way. An extension could probably work around this and add more notifications/emails per event.

PaulArenson (The main purpose of having a forum where people forget to check)

Pretty subjective. The purpose of these mails is to let them know of ANY activity on the forum. This should provide sufficient incentive to check back. The alternative is being spammed on very active forums, which is not really user friendly.

From what I can tell your use case it is pretty rare. You're intending to use it more like a collaboration tool?

PaulArenson

luceos
Thank you. Ah I see. Yes, we are trying to replace MAILMAN 2 because it has bad archives. MAILMAN 3 is what we want, but it is nowhere near ready, Discourse seemed good at first, but it was complex to set up. This is perfect except for that one thing. People keep bringing up past decisions that they have forgotten on MAILMAN 2 and the idea is if we have a limited archive 9what you see here), people would almost always be able to heck back. But without reminders, we may get the same problem. So yes, like a collaboration tool. Both Slack and Flock(free versions) will not allow one to force people to join and our group of 50-80 or so members with about 12 core and active ones is not able to afford a paid version.

So my way for now seems the best I guess...reminding people to follow (and possibly using the MAILMAN 2 LIST To remind them until it becomes second nature. Creating new topics ONLY WHEN NECESSARY.

I guess i would have to wait until an extension were created..

Thanks!!!

luceos

PaulArenson I guess i would have to wait until an extension were created..

Extensions like that would have to be custom created for you, I don't think there's much need for it outside of your use case. ReFlar and the likes are available for hire if you're interested.

/ping @Ralkage @datitisev @Kyrne

PaulArenson

luceos Extensions like that would have to be custom created for you, I don't think there's much need for it outside of your use case. ReFlar and the likes are available for hire if you're interested.

Thank you. That is an option (even in free flarum)? Ok. Reflar I take is a user? Or the people you pinged?

Thanks...

luceos

PaulArenson That is an option (even in free flarum)?

If the extension is made open source you'd still have to convince @Sanguine of its usefulness.

PaulArenson Reflar I take is a user?

ReFlar is a team of developers responsible for some of the best Flarum extensions, including gamification, uncache, polls and many other. Some of them are also staff members of Flarum. The people I pinged are part of ReFlar.

Also I'd like to point out that freeflarum is a great, free product, the constraint of being able to install only the extensions which are whitelisted might restrict your community in the long run, especially the more customisation you require.

PaulArenson

luceos f the extension is made open source you'd still have to convince @Sanguine of its usefulness.

I see. So if the post were made for me, I could not automatically use it (as a freeflarum user)? I would have to have an installation of my own somewhere?

PaulArenson

luceos Also I'd like to point out that freeflarum is a great, free product, the constraint of being able to install only the extensions which are whitelisted might restrict your community in the long run, especially the more customisation you require.

Do you mean that in the long run it might be good to self host? I guess I could move the forum once I am ready. Have never gone beyond Cpanel but guess I could learn.

datitisev

PaulArenson The ReFlar extensions we've made for people have all been published on our GitHub repo at least, if not mentioned here on Discuss yet. We believe in FOSS 🙂.
You would be able to use the extension if Sanguine added it to FreeFlarum, and as he has already said in the FreeFlarum extension (I think), there's an extension freeze until beta 8 comes out, so he doesn't add any more extensions that won't be updated to work with beta 8.

PaulArenson

datitisev

Thank you for the contact. Free and Open Source Software (had to look it up). Ok. So basically it means I support the development of something which everyone can use (and hope that it gets adopted by Sanguine). Right? That sounds like a good thing. Even if Sanguine does not accept it, I could always move to self hosting I guess.

What kind of cost would that involve?

(By the way, when i wrote to Free flare, a persons named Willem replies. Is that also Sanguine?)

luceos

PaulArenson Willem replies. Is that also Sanguine

Yes. One and the same. FreeFlarum is managed by one (master) mind.