Dev Diary: Beta 14

Wadera

010101 Flarum needs an announcement extension

That's great idea!

We can make it even easier to start witch, for example:

Create "Announcements" tag
Set permissions to "moderated" (disable permissions: Start discussions without approval and Reply to discussions without approval)
Ask extension creator to create discussion with standardised title (extension name will be the best imho).

Under this tag only Flarum administrators and extension owner can posts (their messages will be approved only)
What we can achieve?

By luring whole Announcement tag we can get notification about new extensions 😉
All discussion will be like small blogs / changelogs with important information only. We can fallow all extension discussion which we using. If new version is released - you will get e-mail about that (right now when you fallow extension discussion you will get sometimes multiple e-mails per day about support requests and because of that - some important information or version released can be missed)
We will get one place with all extensions. There is option to sort them by date, so we can see which one is still under support and new versions are released (and how frequently) and which are already abandoned by authors.
Further "Announcement extension" (or maybe extiverse?) can compared your installed extension list and search for their name on official Flarum forum discussions under "Announcements" tag. Then display it on Admin panel 😉

ctml

Wadera

Another option could be if mentions supported groups. Would need to be permission based to ensure normal users could not spam groups or everyone. There is the option to place new users in a group by default when they register (through an extension I think).

@everyone
@admins
@mods

Or if we could force all users to follow tags (without the option to unsubscribe), or at least set certain tags to be followed by default, and then the user can manage their follow options as they wish.

MikeJones

askvortsov I think I found a bug with the update.

After updating I was playing around with the new First Post Approval Extension and afterwards I was deleting a post. I was able to delete a post but it through this error. At first glance it looks like it is related to tags:

datitisev

MikeJones I don't think that error comes from the update. All the update adds is add proper permission checks (see https://github.com/flarum/tags/compare/v0.1.0-beta.13...v0.1.0-beta.13.1).

Ralkage

QA is currently hard at work 🔨😀

matteocontrini

When clicking OK in the TagDiscussionModal on nightly.flarum.site the following error is shown in the console:

Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: app.current.get(...) is undefined
    onsubmit TagDiscussionModal.js:310
    promise callback*module.exports</mt</a.onsubmit TagDiscussionModal.js:308
    handleEvent render.js:888
    Lt instrument.js:345
[...]
    exports render.js:964
    a mount-redraw.js:14
    show ModalManagerState.js:35
    onclick addTagControl.js:11
    handleEvent render.js:888
    Lt instrument.js:324
    Lt instrument.js:345
    I render.js:910
[...]

Another thing that happened is that the post scrubber showed "NaN of 16 posts", until I refreshed. I cannot reproduce the issue anymore unfortunately, but this is exactly what I did:

open an unread discussion with no tags (as an admin)
add a tag to the discussion
start scrolling

These steps are not enough to reproduce the issue, but maybe they can still help...

Ralkage

matteocontrini as I stated before, hard at work 💥🔨💥🔨💥🔨😃

askvortsov

matteocontrini Thanks for reporting these! Was this from testing today?

matteocontrini TypeError: app.current.get(...) is undefined

I've seen this error in the console, but have been unable to replicate it. Is this for starting a new discussion, or editing an existing one?

matteocontrini post scrubber showed "NaN of 16 posts"

Did posts also disappear from the PostStream? This is something that a fix should have been pushed out for.

Ralkage

matteocontrini I ran into the NaN thing on the scrubber randomly in our QA environment, it went away after I created a new post in that same discussion, weird 🤔

matteocontrini

askvortsov Was this from testing today?

Yes, it was just a few minutes before posting the message here

askvortsov Is this for starting a new discussion, or editing an existing one?

While editing an existing one. I could reproduce it several times actually, on different discussions. (While I was trying to reproduce the other one ahah)

askvortsov Did posts also disappear from the PostStream?

Mmm not sure about this, I didn't pay attention...

Wadera

That's ideal world, but a lot of new extension developers come and disappear all the time, so tracking who is mod developer and should be able to post under this tag and who should be removed will be a nightmare. It's simple to set some rules on stick post and allow to create new extension discussion for everyone and then review and approve correctly posted one.

It can be even more simplify by improving permissions with option like Reply to discussions if already approved, so author of own extension discussion can freely post updates if first post was approved. That makes something like personal blog page? Personal topic? I hope you can feel the idea 😉

luceos

010101 my solution for this is Extiverse driven. Without burdening the core team and knowing that Extiverse already knows and understand everything it needs to inform webmasters of updates through e-mail or an extension. With stable and everything else going on, I haven't been able to push effort into that feature yet.

010101

luceos Makes sense. Yeah, I suppose just a temporary extra sticky post like I see Clark has done is good too. You know... a very easy option might be to start a newsletter. Sure, then you have to hope most people using Flarum sign up. But, if you’re a serious Flarum user, you’ll sign up. Then for any type of release you send out a newsletter.

askvortsov

@matteocontrini Thanks again for finding and reporting those! The cause has been found, and a fix will be included in the release.

On a more global note, as we're now in the QA stages of beta 14, public API changes are pretty much done. Because of the number of changes affecting extension developers this release, we've put together an extensive upgrade guide, and released it to our documentation site ahead of the release to make it a bit easier to upgrade extensions. We'll also be releasing some expansions to the documentation on Flarum's frontend closer to the release to help new developers, so stay tuned for that!

If you run into issues or have questions about upgrading your extensions, the dev tag on this forum and our discord (linked in header) are great ways to get help.

w-4

Ralkage If it happens again please run app.current.get('stream') in the console during the error and copy or screenshot the object.

matteocontrini

Is it a known issue that scrolling through a discussion sometimes behaves "erratically"?

Here's a video:

What I'm doing there is simply scroll down with the mouse wheel, but sometimes the stream decides to "focus" a post so it goes up instead.

EDIT: now it also happened that while scrolling, the current post number became 1 for a moment, until I scrolled again.

EDIT2: happened again, here's the output of app.current.get('stream') while the post number was 1. (I still have the tab open with the bug, if needed ahah.)

askvortsov

matteocontrini That particular bug would be fixed by flarum/core2366/commits/d25d77d1fd5a7c0f2f7a23559675cf18d702365b, but I just realized that commit introduces issues with the mentions extension. Back to work then!

EDIT: Introduced flarum/core2377 as a potential fix.

luceos

We are extremely close on releasing beta 14. Just a few hurdles that stand in our way to this milestone.

Truth be told, I cannot wait for this release be over with. I don't easily talk about the effects of open source or this project in detail, but I can assure you that the timing of COVID-19 and other world hurt during this release cycle have left their marks. All of that while the whole team was strained to meet an overly optimistic goal.

Every person inside the team to battle towards this release deserves my respect 🙇, unconditionally ! This community and community collaborators cannot fathom the boost of energy they provided these past few weeks with their support, bug tracking and pull requests 🥰

I will not fall for the "just another two weeks" story anymore, but trust me when I say that it's close. You'll see it when it's ready 🚀

[deleted]

luceos Every person inside the team to battle towards this release deserves my respect 🙇, unconditionally !

👍️

MartinJD

luceos Thank you for all of your hard work. We appreciate you and the team behind this great piece of software.

psdlider

luceos What is the most important feature in flarum14 update
When will be published 😅

MikeJones

You all are absolutely amazing! Keep up the great work!

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