What should an Ads extension do?

bryantmilan

I like simple things and from my point of view only the most basic thing is needed, and that is to be able to set up Google AdSense and display custom banner ads in different positions on forum, it's actually an already existing Ads extension which in my opinion just needs fixed and optimized code, at least for the basic free version of this extension.

huuduy216

Ads by tag would be great. For example if a forum has tag for PC and Smartphone, then I can insert an ads link for each.

Another great thing would be statistics, hie many people clicked on a certain ads during a certain timeframe

MikeJones

huuduy216 Another great thing would be statistics, hie many people clicked on a certain ads during a certain timeframe

I feel like this would be dependent on what you are using to provide ads

010101

Well integrated, seamlessly. In other words, look at how Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, everyone who has a nice modern design does ads. They look like a regular post. But, there’s text and/or an icon so the user knows it's an ad. That’s what I’d want. Banner ads, or other ads stuck here and there are okay and many may prefer that I suppose. But, if I ever put ads on any of my websites, I don’t want it to look like I have ads. Because ads can be ugly if they are all over the place. You may ask, "Do you want to make money or have a beautiful looking website?" Both. Why not both?

SKevo

010101 I like that idea. Perhaps when you're browsing a discussion, a random ad disguised as post shows up. The user who made it might be called "AdBot" (no profile page, but the name could be configurable).

As for the discussion list, there could be ads that act like the discussion card, but they are a bit larger so the ad can fit. All ad posts will be labeled as "Advertisements" by a fake tag label - everything would be fake anyways, you'd be borrowing appearance of other elements, but there wouldn't be any functionality, eg.: there won't be an "Ads" tag that lets you view all ads, when clicking on the bot's profile or username, it doesn't take you to their profile page, because it doesn't exist, etc. - but the visual is there.

Or if someone has wild imagination, they could make AdBot a normal user account that posts ad discussions, which then randomly appear around forum. Since this will have to completely overwrite how certain Flarum elements work (randomly showing ad discussions through the ad list, the bot's profile page...) I'd say this would be a premium extension sold separately as addon for this one.

I think that this could be a smart and a fun way how to display advertisements. Maybe I took it way too far, but I'm a dreamer

giter

I would especially like to see a fixed place at the bottom of each post (/d/1) for advertising content (not just ads, of course, but anything else you want to put), and I think it would look great to add, for example, copyright information after each post (/d/1).

hrvoje_hr

For me Ads extension should:

Track number of clicks and impressions
Allow number of different positions like between N number of posts/discussions, sidebar...
Have an option to place multiple ads on the same position with % (or ratio) slider for distribution
Compatible with permissions (in case to allow one group do be ad free)

luceos

What about gdpr compliance?

hrvoje_hr

luceos how native ads can affect GDPR compliance? There is no data collecting.

For Adsense I think it's enough to warn about it on privacy policy page and link Adsense policy URL.

MikeJones

hrvoje_hr adsense has a new tool you can add that lets people opt out of tracking on a site and the they just show generic ads.

I have it on my flarum. Its a new tool from them so it kind of not always displays. But its into when it does.

[deleted]

hrvoje_hr actually, you'd be surprised. Users should have the ability to opt out of campaigns such as this as it affects their privacy if it is being forced on them. Essentially, tracking indicates you are following what they do in the site.

Hotjar does this, and often finds itself in beach of regulation as a result.

010101

[deleted] Isn’t @hrvoje_hr talking about a native manual type ad? Like you upload an image which is the ad. Which has no tracking. That would not be against any gdpr rules right? You're just showing someone a picture at that point. Basically how websites did ads before Adsense and related stuff. Old school ads. If a company wants to advertise on your site they must send you a 1000x1000 png. You charge them X$, and display it for a while.

[deleted]

010101 yes, but these types of ads get served by JavaScript which usually features some form of tracking. In addition, to be fully compliant with GDPR, such ads should also respect the Do Not Track feature of the browser if it's enabled.

010101

[deleted] I'm talking even more basic no JavaScript. I’d want a way to do exclusive ads that are no different from any other post. Except clearly marked as an ad. But as I type this I'm realizing I can already do that. Just post something and say this is a sponsored post. So, I guess you don’t really need an ad extension for what I’m thinking about. Haha!

Ffuser1

Ability to store and serve your own custom adds with the following choices:

show ads for X number of days
show ads in a certain tag or category
show ads in home page
show ads before or first post
show ads after X number of posts
show ads in footer
shows ads for a certain user group selection
show ads for non logged-in users
an interface for users to submit and pay for ads to be served with option to select sections of the site they want the ads to be served. Like in a certain tag or home page etc.

Ffuser1

For those asking for Google adsense, there's already a way to do this.

install HTML head extension
Add your Google adsense code in the html head extension and enable it.
customize your adds in Google adsense
adds will start showing on your flarum site after few minutes.
Caveat: you can't customize who views it.
But you can send a PM to the author of html extension to add an option to user groups that an html head item is served to.

I feel this extension should be for serving own ads. I prefer to serve my own ads than serve Google's. That way I have absolute control of how it is displayed and what is displayed.

MikeJones

Ffuser1 with how flarum is set up that's a really buggy way to display Google adsense. I don't think that should be the adsense solution.

Bishwas-py

MikeJones Yes brother flagrow/ads is really very glitchy and function less.

Darkle

Two users have contacted me through FlarumES asking me about an extension for ads, I remembered this discussion because one of the users told me about the possibility of showing or not ads through permissions and it was just what we talked about here, @luceos are you still planning to do this extension in the future?

luceos

Darkle I talked to the blomstra team about this and right now I'm not pursuing this. Meta is now the first on my todo. I'll possibly revisit ads later this year. Sorry to disappoint.

Ps this would be a great candidate for crowdfunding.

Darkle

luceos Ok no problem, they had been quite insistent and I didn't really know what to tell them, thank you.

Ps this would be a great candidate for crowdfunding.

Yeah!

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