• Support
  • Flarum is slow in comparison to NodeBB

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fakruzaruret why always you use full width layout?

Because I personally dislike websites that only use a portion of the screen estate. I see no point in having a huge screen for only 10% of it to be used in a web browser.

fakruzaruret I think this not nice on desktop.

I actually think the reverse.

    [deleted] I actually think the reverse.

    It actually becomes harder to read when you have a line that is 25 km long. That's why every online newspaper has a fixed-width layout and often quite narrow (e.g. NYT), it's easier to read. That's how print works as well, there are probably studies about this 🙂

    I don't want to start a war about this though 😅

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      matteocontrini It actually becomes harder to read when you have a line that is 25 km long. That's why every online newspaper has a fixed-width layout and often quite narrow (e.g. NYT), it's easier to read. That's how print works as well, there are probably studies about this 🙂

      Good points. There are studies, yes - in the same line as the "argument" about light and dark themes 🙂 I guess it's all down to preference, but I do see the points raised by @fakruzaruret - I guess I'm a bit of a stickler with this, but I see the reasoning. I may relent yet.... 🙂

      [deleted] Its not in the admin dashboard? It should be, did it install correctly with composer, to the tagged 0.2 version?

      After enabled, you'll want to enable the clockwork browser extension, then log in and visit your site. There should be a new clockwork tab in dev tools.

        [deleted] Discuss is running on smaller hardware than this I have a feeling that something isn't quite right with the server setup or hardware the server is on. And of course Discuss is clearly not empty (with thousands upon thousands of post). We've made very minimal changes to default MySQL and PHP settings for discuss as well.

        Do you know if your hardware is running HDDs or SSDs? This might have a huge impact on how Flarum performs.

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          tankerkiller125 It's SSD based. It's not the server either. I can place the same Flarum instance on Hetzner, IONOS, OVH... the performance is exactly the same. This leads be to believe it's not the hardware, but something inside Flarum itself (or one of the extensions - if I disable them all, the speed increases, but nowhere near as fast as NodeBB)

          Question:

          • Have you tried opening with same thread/discussion content instead of load main home page? Maybe generate some dummy post and exactly same.
          • For me (personally), at today's speed 4G connection both site are same 😀

          Try this ... https://forumbebas.com running on cheap Chicago SSD KVM VPS - 4GB Ram 100GB SSD 4CPU Cores
          Stats 2M+ posts with 200k+ discussion and 181k+ users
          Try sort forum in to oldest data or open old data discussion with hundreds/thousands reply here...

          Its old forum since 2004 came from SMF, PunBB, FluxBB, PHPBB, Vanilla ( I did migration every 3-4 years maybe? ), because I am curious with every new forum/BBS technology..

          I am noob NodeBB,
          Is anyone could tell me how to replicate existing Flarum DB ito NodeBB? 😅

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            askvortsov No. I don't see the extension in php flarum info either :-(

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              FBI Try this ... https://forumbebas.com running on cheap Chicago SSD KVM VPS - 4GB Ram 100GB SSD 4CPU Cores
              Stats 2M+ posts with 200k+ discussion and 181k+ users

              Much faster than Metabullet !!

              FBI Try this ... https://forumbebas.com running on cheap Chicago SSD KVM VPS - 4GB Ram 100GB SSD 4CPU Cores
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              • FBI replied to this.
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                askvortsov composer show fof/clockwork?

                phenomlab@vps:~/httpdocs$ composer show fof/clockwork
                name     : fof/clockwork
                descrip. : Debug your Flarum forum with Clockwork
                keywords : flarum
                versions : * 0.1
                type     : flarum-extension
                license  : MIT License (MIT) (OSI approved) https://spdx.org/licenses/MIT.html#licenseText
                homepage : 
                source   : [git] https://github.com/FriendsOfFlarum/clockwork.git 71154945963eefbe6032254c3dce7032535a6e0a
                dist     : [zip] https://api.github.com/repos/FriendsOfFlarum/clockwork/zipball/71154945963eefbe6032254c3dce7032535a6e0a 71154945963eefbe6032254c3dce7032535a6e0a
                path     : /var/www/vhosts/phenomlab.com/httpdocs/vendor/fof/clockwork
                names    : fof/clockwork
                
                support
                issues : https://github.com/FriendsOfFlarum/clockwork/issues
                source : https://github.com/FriendsOfFlarum/clockwork/tree/0.1
                
                autoload
                psr-4
                FoF\Clockwork\ => src/
                files
                
                requires
                flarum/core ^0.1.0-beta.12
                itsgoingd/clockwork ^5.0.0

                You have the right version, enable it in the admin area and install the browser addon (firefox or chrome I think). Then open the browser console, refresh and check the clockwork tab.

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                  luceos You have the right version, enable it in the admin area and install the browser addon (firefox or chrome I think). Then open the browser console, refresh and check the clockwork tab.

                  I'd love to, but I don't see it in the admin console, and it's not listed in php flarum info either 🙂

                  phenomlab@vps:~/httpdocs$ php flarum info
                  Flarum core 0.1.0-beta.15
                  PHP version: 7.4.3
                  Loaded extensions: Core, date, libxml, openssl, pcre, zlib, filter, hash, pcntl, Reflection, SPL, session, standard, sodium, mysqlnd, PDO, xml, calendar, ctype, curl, dom, mbstring, FFI, fileinfo, ftp, gd, gettext, gmp, iconv, json, exif, mysqli, pdo_mysql, Phar, posix, readline, shmop, SimpleXML, sockets, sysvmsg, sysvsem, sysvshm, tokenizer, xmlreader, xmlwriter, xsl, zip, Zend OPcache
                  +------------------------------------------+------------------+--------+
                  | Flarum Extensions                        |                  |        |
                  +------------------------------------------+------------------+--------+
                  | ID                                       | Version          | Commit |
                  +------------------------------------------+------------------+--------+
                  | flarum-approval                          | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-bbcode                            | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-emoji                             | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-flags                             | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-lock                              | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-markdown                          | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-mentions                          | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-statistics                        | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-sticky                            | v0.1.0-beta.15.1 |        |
                  | flarum-subscriptions                     | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-suspend                           | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | flarum-tags                              | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | fof-follow-tags                          | 0.6.5            |        |
                  | fof-oauth                                | 0.2.1            |        |
                  | fof-linguist                             | 0.5.1            |        |
                  | fof-split                                | 0.6.0            |        |
                  | fof-moderator-notes                      | 0.4.4            |        |
                  | fof-merge-discussions                    | 0.5.1            |        |
                  | v17development-seo                       | v1.6.2           |        |
                  | fof-subscribed                           | 0.4.1            |        |
                  | fof-spamblock                            | 0.4.0            |        |
                  | fof-gamification                         | 0.4.3            |        |
                  | fof-realtimedate                         | 0.2.1            |        |
                  | flarumite-simple-discussion-views        | 0.2.4            |        |
                  | fof-filter                               | 0.3.2            |        |
                  | fof-impersonate                          | 0.7.0            |        |
                  | fof-share-social                         | 0.3.0            |        |
                  | fof-upload                               | 0.13.1           |        |
                  | fof-user-directory                       | 0.5.3            |        |
                  | phenomlab-scrolltotop                    | 0.1.3            |        |
                  | kyrne-websocket                          | 2.4.2            |        |
                  | fof-formatting                           | 0.3.1            |        |
                  | therealsujitk-hljs                       | v2.0.0           |        |
                  | nearata-copy-code-to-clipboard           | v1.2.0           |        |
                  | fof-best-answer                          | 0.3.6            |        |
                  | fof-terms                                | 0.6.1            |        |
                  | fof-pretty-mail                          | 0.3.0            |        |
                  | fof-user-bio                             | 0.4.2            |        |
                  | fof-links                                | 0.5.4            |        |
                  | fof-pages                                | 0.6.0            |        |
                  | fof-username-request                     | 0.4.2            |        |
                  | fof-ignore-users                         | 0.3.1            |        |
                  | kyrne-aegis                              | 1.0.12           |        |
                  | ianm-synopsis                            | 0.1.3            |        |
                  | fof-drafts                               | 0.3.2            |        |
                  | fof-reactions                            | 0.5.0            |        |
                  | clarkwinkelmann-popular-discussion-badge | 0.2.2            |        |
                  | phenomlab-fancybox-wrapper               | 0.5              |        |
                  | fof-polls                                | 0.3.2            |        |
                  | noriods-auto-more                        | 0.3.1            |        |
                  | zerosonesfun-direct-links                | 2.0.3            |        |
                  | flarum-lang-english                      | v0.1.0-beta.15   |        |
                  | clarkwinkelmann-who-read                 | 1.2.2            |        |
                  | fof-default-group                        | 0.3.1            |        |
                  | davwheat-custom-sidenav-links            | 0.2.0            |        |
                  | askvortsov-pwa                           | v2.0.4           |        |
                  | fof-webhooks                             | 0.5.0            |        |
                  | dem13n-discussion-cards                  | 0.2.9            |        |
                  | v17development-blog                      | v0.2.3           |        |
                  | reflar-recache                           | 2.3.2            |        |
                  +------------------------------------------+------------------+--------+
                  Base URL: https://phenomlab.com
                  Installation path: /var/www/vhosts/phenomlab.com/httpdocs
                  Debug mode: off

                  It's there in composer.json though

                  "fof/clockwork": "0.1",

                    [deleted] I suspect that 0.1 might be an outdated version, which doesn't contain some of the fixes and improvements needed for it to work well. We might need to wait until beta 16 to test these benchmarks.

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                      askvortsov Ok. I can't upgrade yet though

                      phenomlab@vps:~/httpdocs$ php extiverse check --ansi | grep "| no"
                      | fof/filter                                          | 0.3.2            | 0.3.2           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/5131  |
                      | fof/gamification                                    | 0.4.3            | 0.4.3           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/20671 |
                      | fof/ignore-users                                    | 0.3.1            | 0.3.1           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/20681 |
                      | fof/merge-discussions                               | 0.5.1            | 0.5.1           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/19460 |
                      | fof/pretty-mail                                     | 0.3.0            | 0.3.0           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/11178 |
                      | fof/webhooks                                        | 0.5.0            | 0.5.1           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/17812 |
                      | kyrne/aegis                                         | 1.0.12           | 1.0.12          | no   |                                    |
                      | noriods/auto-more                                   | 0.3.1            | 0.3.1           | no   | https://discuss.flarum.org/d/11961 |
                      | reflar/recache                                      | 2.3.2            | 2.3.2           | no   |                                    |
                      | therealsujitk/flarum-ext-hljs                       | v2.0.0           | 2.0.0           | no   |                                    |

                      Admittedly, some of these extensions will work regardless, but not sure about fof based ones.

                      almalino So big forum and no ads!

                      Welcome to the new Server, PHP and Programming Technology.

                      In the beginning, I ran $300-$400 Dedicated Server or $50-$100 VPS with PHP version 5 and old MySQL (using Ads)..
                      Now, price is less than a pack of cigarette / month, you got VPS and smooth PHP 7+ with InnoDB/MariaDB and Java Technology which is share rendering resources to client/user's powerful gadget/PC

                      So, I dont need Ads at the moment. Just hobby...

                      And finally I found Flarum.. 😃

                      I am curious reading this case.. NodeBB vs Flarum