What are your thoughts on the Microsoft event on 24 June?

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Darkle Harsh, but true.

Darkle

[deleted] In part yes, the reality is that it is very difficult to do what Windows does, it was at the time and today it is even more so... it is very difficult to create a system that tries to cover so many needs for so many different users, precisely for that reason there are so many bad things but there are also good things!

It is complicated to find the balance but we must be a little optimistic for the future, the new CPU architectures will directly affect Windows, we will see which way it takes...

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ornanovitch And the releasing of all the Windows code as Open Source

🙂 100%

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ornanovitch Windows code as Open Source

According to me it's Impossible.. 😄

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[deleted] According to me it's Impossible..

Microsoft said that about OOBE with WindowsXP - which was subsequently cracked in an hour by China.

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Darkle we will see which way it takes...

Fairly obvious in my view. Much like SQL server and Exchange licensing per processor at one point - probably expensive ! I was always under the illusion that Windows 10 was supposed to be a rolling release, and no more incremental updates.

https://news.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-will-last-operating-system-says-microsoft-78227/

Ralkage

Microsoft helped bring me to Flarum by brining me a working OS which is still kicking till this day 🙂

Though Windows is slowly becoming a shadow of that even off MacOS, for the typical end user that is.

I am mostly looking forward to hearing about W11!!

luceos

I personally hope they will fix all issues I have with WSL2. One of the biggest gripes I have is that it corrupts files when I shutdown Windows with Docker still running. So far this has impacted the .git directory of a project with pending changes (requiring me to start from master) and my bash history.

Ralkage Though Windows is slowly becoming a shadow of that even off MacOS, for the typical end user that is.

Quite a few developers that I know are actually gradually moving back to Windows. Macbooks haven't been of great quality for a long time, although the M1 changed that. On the other hand great developer windows laptops are rare; the Dell XPS seems to get bad reviews in my network as well.

Darkle

[deleted] I thought the same but apparently with the cancellation of Windows 10X they have re-evaluated things and are not at all happy with the rolling release they have carried out on Windows 10, which makes sense, in my case it was fixing one problem and two others arise with each update, not to mention the coexistence of two designs (the old and the partially new in some areas) of UI in 2021, yes 2021 🤣 .

With a new version I think the rolling release will change, but I assume that the upgrade will be free as with W10.

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Darkle With a new version I think the rolling release will change, but I assume that the upgrade will be free as with W10.

In my professional capacity, I've used Windows since 1985 (guess my age 😆) - from Windows 286 right the way through to current releases (Windows 10, Server 2019 etc), and given that it's the primary operating system where I work (I'm head of IT and Chief Information Security Officer) it's an impossibility that I will no longer support or entertain it.

On the personal front, I switched to Linux (currently a KDE Neon user) and never looked back. Sure, there's some things that Linux cannot and will never be able to do, but I like freedom - both in the sense of software, and also in the sense of the majority of malware etc.

Darkle

[deleted] I understand and agree, it is a reality that the freedom of Linux is undeniable. I still remember the dozens of steps (even in the registry) that had to be done to completely disable Cortana in the first versions of W10...

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Darkle Yep, and the fact that all settings we/are "on" by default

almalino

I hope for Ubuntu based Linux with Metro UI !!!!

davwheat

luceos On the other hand great developer windows laptops are rare; the Dell XPS seems to get bad reviews in my network as well.

I hear people say this a lot, but noone ever seems to explain the issues they have with laptops that are already on the market. I think one of the big issues the the sheer amount of options available: every laptop has its tradeoffs and seeing all the options makes people think that they can't get one that does what they want. I know I definitely had that issue 😛

Hari

new surface phone 2 🌼

tankerkiller125

davwheat My solution to the trade off problem is to always buy ThinkPad, expensive yes, but they literally last forever (I have on laying around here from the 90s that still works) and have all the core features and stuff that I need and/or work needs.

Personally however I'm hoping that Microsoft in general just does a better job of integrating Intune/AzureAD with Windows. Hopefully at some point I can use those as full GPO replacements. Also if they are releasing a Windows 11 I hope it's a free upgrade again.

luceos

davwheat I hear people say this a lot, but noone ever seems to explain the issues they have with laptops that are already on the market.

Macbooks are simply far more superior in their software and hardware (except between 2015 mbp and m1). So developers tend to compare things with that; easy to use, excellent ux/graphics/performance and quality case/hardware..

davwheat

tankerkiller125

I'd love a ThinkPad, but I want them to start using the latest Ryzen mobile CPUs first. Lenovo's laptops are always the best in my experience.

I'd assume it would be a free upgrade, especially for home users. They might want to try and charge enterprise customers, though. They said that future versions of Windows would extend upon Windows 10, so I honestly don't think they'll call it Windows 11.

tankerkiller125

davwheat We have a couple of Laptops we recently purchased that have the latest Ryzen mobile processors (I believe) Notably their E series has them.

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luceos excellent ux/graphics/performance and quality case/hardware..

And a usually outrageous price tag to match 😡

davwheat

tankerkiller125

Yeah, last time I looked though they were 3000 series, annoyingly, and now that 5000 series is out, they're still on 4000 series.

The battery is pretty underwhelming at 45 Wh. I barely get by a full school day with 91 Wh 😛

tankerkiller125

davwheat The thing to remember though is that ThinkPads are for business, not consumer, so reliability is way more important than next gen speed or features (at least in the minds of both businesses and manufacturers)