Blomstra Search, an elasticsearch fulltext search extension

GoodTimes

Why choose elastic while OpenSearch is there?

Darkle

GoodTimes OpenSearch, if I'm not mistaken is a fork of Elasticsearch 7... I guess if this extension doesn't require anything special from Elasticsearch +8.x, it should work without problems, give it a try.

GoodTimes

Darkle Yeah, I know it. But my question arose because the author is talking about Elasticsearch and does not mention OpenSearch. Elasticsearch has been doing its best lately to break compatibility with OpenSearch and implement a vendor lock-in, so it's a little scary, and if the author plans to stay with Elasticsearch, and not with OpenSearch, then this does not suit me, in terms of long term sustainability.

When it comes to software, I prefer to choose solutions that have a sustainable and predictable future and do not impose risks of vendor lock-in or abandonment. For me, OpenSearch is the clear winner between these two options.

luceos

GoodTimes But my question arose because the author is talking about Elasticsearch and does not mention OpenSearch.

Honestly I hadn't even heard of OpenSearch. And as I needed a reliable, established and scalable search solution pretty acutely for a Blomstra client I relied on the tech that I knew would be up for the task.

GoodTimes Elasticsearch has been doing its best lately to break compatibility with OpenSearch and implement a vendor lock-in, so it's a little scary, and if the author plans to stay with Elasticsearch, and not with OpenSearch, then this does not suit me, in terms of long term sustainability.

If you feel this committed to opensearch you can probably do a few things:

fork this extension and adapt it for opensearch and republish it under your own name (make sure to keep license references intact)
contribute to this extension by making it compatible with elastic and opensearch
build your own

Obviously any of these can be commissioned work as well, I know a company that can do this for you 😉

matteocontrini

GoodTimes I prefer to choose solutions that have a sustainable and predictable future and do not impose risks of vendor lock-in or abandonment. For me, OpenSearch is the clear winner between these two options.

I don't know on which information you're basing this conclusion on but to me it seems to be exactly the opposite.

Elasticsearch development is definitely more active and the product isn't going anywhere. OpenSearch is basically stuck at where it was forked 2 years ago, while Elasticsearch evolved quite a bit. Also, OpenSearch documentation isn't as good as the original, unfortunately.

Unless you're using the AWS managed service, which is the reason why OpenSearch exists, I don't see why anyone should choose a fork with less features, support and documentation...

OpenSearch GitHub activity:

Elasticsearch GitHub activity:

NateS

If is:unread and author:nate don't work, I'll have to go back to MySQL search. Any pointers on where to start debugging?

cybereality

I'm getting this error: No alive nodes found in your cluster.

I'm using the elasticsearch cloud, I've tried the latest 8 version and 7. I'm not sure what the problem is, I believe I've entered the info on the Flarum settings correctly.

cybereality

Is this search add-on compatible with the elasticsearch cloud account? I can't seem to get it to connect. My cluster seems okay, and I used the user"elastic" with the proper password. One thing I noticed is that my host provider blocks port 9200, so I can't access the local instance. Is there any way to get this to work?

luceos

cybereality please dm me on discord at luceos#0001 or send an email to luceos@flarum.org; I will need more information than this.

HD3D

luceos What happens after uninstalling this extension, does forum go back to the default search?

And is it possible to exclude some flarum-tags from the search results using this extension?

luceos

HD3D What happens after uninstalling this extension, does forum go back to the default search?

Yes

HD3D And is it possible to exclude some flarum-tags from the search results using this extension?

No.

HD3D

luceos Getting this error
php flarum blomstra:search:index --recreate

In StaticNoPingConnectionPool.php line 64:

  No alive nodes found in your cluster

luceos

HD3D your connection settings seem to be incorrect or the elastic instance isn't up..

HD3D

luceos Do I have to set up elastic instance to get this extension working?

I just followed the first post's instructions

luceos username/password are either the admin user or another one created for this index

Also, do you mean here my forums admin and it's password?

luceos

HD3D no, the elastic search admin or index user.

HD3D

luceos Does it mean that I have to elastic on my server before installing this extension?

Ralkage

HD3D simple answer: yes 🫡

maisen20

Do I understand correctly that this search function does not search in discussion titles?

luceos

maisen20 it can. It's an option in the extension settings.

maisen20

luceos okay but i have some issues. for example i have a discussion with title: "Arbeitsstunden, Ferientage, Feiertage und Ferienbonus definieren".

Now when I search for "Arbeitsstu", the discussion is suggested as a result. But as soon as I search for "Arbeitsstun" (one letter more at the end), no result is displayed.

What could be the reason for this?

luceos

maisen20 did you select the right language? And you might need to rerun seeding after that.

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