Private discussions developer diary

luceos

UaMV it might also be beneficial to remove the recipient input field once tags have been selected

I was thinking that might complicate deciding to create a non-private discussion. I was considering allowing you to configure one tag that holds private discussions and forcing that tag while one or more recipients have been selected.

BlackSheep thanks, I hope I will be able to live up to your expecations.

BlackSheep

luceos I'm sure you will <3

marcozambi

luceos I agree with this concept. At the end of the day on other forum engines private messages are just equal to any typical forum discussion, with the exception of being private.
A special tag which marks a conversation (thread) between two or more users as private is basically what a PM is.
We're ready to support you, also with incentives,as soon as a first version is out ?

FBI

Awaiting to release and installed on my forum ?

staion

Is this really a Private Messaging feature or a Private Discussions one? I'm confused! They should be separate...IMO. We won't really need Private Discussions if we have Private Messages.
So which one is it?! Or both?

BlackSheep

staion The title of the discussion is "Private messaging".

luceos

staion Is this really a Private Messaging feature or a Private Discussions one?

BlackSheep The title of the discussion is "Private messaging".

Based on previous proposals I think this extension would more fulfil the role of private discussions. But private discussions between two recipients still is like private messaging.

staion

luceos then change Flarum discussions naming in to messages ?

BlackSheep that's what I was saying, the title is something but the discussions here are more for the Private Discussions...

jordanjay29

staion There's no functional difference nowadays. Private Messaging in forums, like threaded replies in email, has long past the point where it was reasonable to send one-way messages back and forth. A private message in most forums nowadays is functionally just a thread with a select number of recipients, located in a different place and styled differently. There might be a couple private-only features you'd want to implement, but at the end of the day they're the same thing.

staion

I still disagree...although this will make this topic a bit off...but what you said is like making almost any feature of a forum practically the same as a discussion but changed to do something else. I don't think so.
PMs are PMs and discussions are...you guessed it discussions. Because at the end, what about the real Private Discussions like some forums have, like an "invisible" forum?!

jordanjay29

staion The distinction here is sending a private discussion to a select number of individual members, versus being in a group with permissions to access a hidden tag. Even if these private discussions permitted sending to a whole group (like mods, for example), it's still an example of an inclusive discussion (any member to mods) versus exclusive (mods to mods only). It means you need not have special permissions to enter into a conversation with others without onlookers.

staion

Just agree to me and let's end the "fight" ?

luceos

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hcarpach

Great to see you've taken this one, love your other extensions. I'll keep an eye to see if I can help with anything (even if it is helping to open a bitcoin wallet so you can take my donations :p)

luceos

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luceos

Seems like there is one thing I hadn't seen before. The tag extension javascript code requires at least the selection of tags. I'm not sure I'll be able to override that, because it already is an override ?

luceos

Woop, after creating the discussion in the gif, wait a few secs I had to open the index.

@UaMV and others ?

image messaging-privategif.gif

BlackSheep

luceos Will there be a different page regrouping all the private discussions ?
(Good job, btw !)

luceos

BlackSheep there currently is a gambit that I intend to re-use, you can use it in the search with:

is:private

I'm considering adding a separate page that uses the gambit, and also add an icon that shows notifications for all your private discussions.

I'm also considering renaming the package from messaging to something else that better implies private discussion, suggestions?

BlackSheep

luceos "Private Messages" seems quite fitting. All people who have been using forums knows what a PM is ?

UaMV

luceos Another option for naming would be Direct Messages.

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