Translate - on demand translation of user content

IanM

Lurker yes, that's correct

Lurker

Review: I did some comparison tests between DeepL and Google Translate and found the following:

DeepL

For unsupported languages, the driver displays random languages in the auto-detect line (i.e. "This language is in Indonesian then Slovenian, etc...") and shows the original message in the translation box which is the expected behaviour.
For supported languages, a lot of people prefer this over Google Translate based on online reviews.

Google Translate

Due to its wide language support, it's able to provide a good level of translation. For uncommon languages, grammatical mistakes are more frequent but the context is preserved. Despite the errors, it is better than not having any translation at all.
If the language is not found in the Intl.DsiplayNames database, the driver will display "This language is in un." in the auto-detect line.

Overall, I would say that the free Google Translate would suffice for most forum needs. The only time I would choose DeepL over Google Translate is when translating longer paragraphs of text where context and tone are considered essential.

Verdict: I'm glad I picked this up early. Though I'm still in my setup phase for my forum, I'll keep this as an admin/moderator feature until more multicultural members join. If you're reading this and you're still thinking about it, I say grab this now while the price is right. There will always come a time when you'll need this extension. 👍

Bonus Usage: Translate spam posts before deleting them. 😂

IanM

0.2.1

fix an issue where translations would not display under some circumstances
fix an issue where the language translation dropdown caused undesirable effects on mobile

Note: I am aware of an issue when the DeepL driver is in use where the forum response times are increased. A further update will be released shortly to address this.

Updating

composer update ianm/translate
php flarum cache:clear

pkernstock

Thanks for the extension! My two cents, if you don't mind: I think some integration of Discussion Language would make sense here? For example to determine the current language - as it doesn't make sense to translate a English-tagged post into English, and also hide hide the option if it's the same language.

IanM

pkernstock My two cents, if you don't mind:

Of course not, all feedback is welcome 🙂

pkernstock some integration of Discussion Language would make sense here

I do plan to integrate with fof/discussion-language in the new year actually. 👍️

pkernstock For example to determine the current language - as it doesn't make sense to translate a English-tagged post into English, and also hide hide the option if it's the same language.

Did you run the detect command (php flarum translate:detect) after enabling the extension? 🤔 For posts where the language has been detected by the extension, the option to translate to the same language is removed already.. If the language is not detected (even if marked by discussion-language), then all languages (as dictated by the current permissions) are offered.

New posts created whilst the extension is active will be detected automatically.

The easiest way to tell if the extension has detected the language is by spotting the language header at the top of the post, like this:

pkernstock

IanM Did you run the detect command

Oh! Apologies. I've successfully over-read that part in late night hours installing this extension. I'm now running the command, and it takes a while. Thanks!

IanM

pkernstock no problem. Yes, it can take a while to run the detection, if you have a large number of existing posts. Thankfully this is a one time process

Syirrus

IanM how well does this play with SEO? Do the cached translation turn into SEO juice as in if a post is in English and then cached and translated into Spanish for example, can Google see the Spanish translation of the post?

Also, does this translate Primary and secondary tags?

Poltavtcev

@IanM, greetings. Awesome extension!
What does a license mean for non -commercial use and how much will one-time license cost for a commercial? Thanks

GreXXL

Poltavtcev you can find the information on the premium extension terms of Extiverse. There is currently no one-time commercial license offered by the extension author.

IanM

Syirrus how well does this play with SEO? Do the cached translation turn into SEO juice as in if a post is in English and then cached and translated into Spanish for example, can Google see the Spanish translation of the post?

There's currently no integration with SEO directly

Syirrus Also, does this translate Primary and secondary tags?

No, this extension focuses on the translation of user content only. Localizd by @glowingblue is the only extension I'm aware of to offer tag translations

Syirrus

IanM Thank you for responding to my questions 🙂. In your opinion, is your plug pretty stable? It looks like an awesome plugin I'm thinking about picking up.

IanM

Syirrus yes, on the whole the extension is pretty stable and is in use on a few production sites.

There is currently an issue with increased latency when the DeepL driver is in use, which I plan to release an update to address soon. The current workaround is to use either the Google Translate or Google Cloud Translate drivers, which do not cause this issue.

Syirrus

IanM Thank you very much again.

Syirrus

kebindong IanM

I just picked up this extension and it’s great! It’s very clean and seamlessly works as well so far with my limited testing. It’s there, but you don’t notice it unless you need it. Thank and well done for sure!!!

I wish it had tag translation support and translation support for Titles, but it’s more important to translate the comments and posts.

Thank you again for this awesome extension!

Syirrus

IanM

How much would it cost to implement a few additional features into your translate plugin?

The ability to translate the subject.
The ability to hide and show translation(s) (already cached in the DB) below the post for SERP?
Bonus: the ability to localize tags.

Syirrus

IanM Has the bug for the DeepL latency issue been addressed? Just curious.

kebindong

IanM Im not lucky, I missed this promotion.. hope this deal come again in Christmas..

Syirrus

I noticed there is a tag based permission issue when it comes to NOT being able to grant or restrict access based on "tags" access to the translate plugin based on tag.

You cannot click on or rather set any permissions based on tags.

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IanM

Syirrus I noticed there is a tag based permission issue when it comes to NOT being able to grant or restrict access based on "tags" access to the translate plugin based on tag.

You cannot click on or rather set any permissions based on tags.

This is correct. The permissions to translate content is forum wide, rather than scoped for tags.

Syirrus The ability to translate the subject.

I am planning to introduce this feature soon 🙂

Syirrus The ability to hide and show translation(s) (already cached in the DB) below the post for SERP?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here?

Syirrus Bonus: the ability to localize tags.

Translation of tag display names is out of scope for this extension. Localizd by @glowingblue offers this functionality if you need it

Syirrus

IanM

IanM This is correct. The permissions to translate content is forum wide, rather than scoped for tags.

I understand.

IanM The ability to translate the subject.

Right on! That would be awesome if it's a easy change.

IanM The ability to hide and show translation(s) (already cached in the DB) below the post for SERP?

I was thinking something that showed the following:

TITLE There is the original text in English.

TRANSLATED TITLE Here would be the text in another language

TRANSLATED TITLE And yet more text in another language

These boxes (not coding text boxes) would be collapsable in CSS (collapsed by default) with the subject being translated title. So you wouldn't see the translated text below.

If someone wanted to see the translations, they could click translated "title" and see the whole translation. This would also make it so these translations would be picked up by Google.

Does that make sense?

IanM Translation of tag display names is out of scope for this extension. Localizd by @glowingblue offers this functionality if you need it

Yes, the price for that extension is prohibited, making it not an option for my project.

Syirrus

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