PM feature of discuss.flarum.org

meetdilip

Now that the extension is ready, why not have it here ?

jordanjay29

It's waiting on an is_private database marker that will hopefully be PRed and included in Beta 7. This is necessary to avoid a workaround for handling Private Discussions when Byobu is disabled (the current behavior is that they become public).

Pollux

luceos

I've read that Flagrow byōbu will rely on a not yet provided is_private database marker to avoid private threads becoming publicly visible when disabling this extension (jordanjay29).

Will it be difficult later to update Flagrow byōbu if I start using it now?

meetdilip

You mean, include Byobu in core ? As a part of core ?

jordanjay29

meetdilip no, merely support for private discussions like Byobu has. Extensibility.

Prosperous

I've just woken up so forgive me for not paying attention, but is this a Flarum-built private discussion feature? Or do we still have to get the extension via Byobu?

datitisev

Prosperous flarum/core1153. It's planned to add a property for posts and discussions so if they have is_private set to 1 they are hidden. This way, extensions can hide discussions & posts easier.

Byobu will use that feature once it gets merged, so when someone disables the extension, all the private discussions aren't made publicly visible.

Prosperous

datitisev Sweet, thanks for clearing that up man.

meetdilip

Thanks. It's clear now.

But, my question is entirely different. Will this forum have PM ? Not private installations of Flarum.

jordanjay29

meetdilip it's in the cards, yes. Just not implemented yet.

luceos

meetdilip we do not want anything bad happening on the official forums (eg private discussions visible to everyone when updating the forum). Using Byobu on these forums has been revisited a few times, but that has to wait on the aforementioned fix (and as such the new beta) and on a formal approval by the T-Law (aka Toby and/or Franz) ? .

Please also note Byobu is aiming to become a realtime private messaging tool. It will not easily be unmaintained.

meetdilip

I just want to use the PM feature here. Good for sharing things like password, temporary admin account etc.

Kyrne

meetdilip Obligatory don't post your password in plaintext or give it to anyone. In the event something goes wrong, your password is public ?

meetdilip

Kyrne I was referring about cases when we need expert help. It is a common practice to share a temporary admin account details with those willing to help.

For example, Flarum installation service that's being offered through this forum.

jordanjay29

Yep, for the moment our go-to alternative suggestion is to use the direct message feature of Gitter. I hoe soon we'll have Byobu installed and can privately message here.