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I am sorry to say, but I think I am getting off 'the merry go round' (carousel) as everyone I know was waiting for an installer which would be friendly with shared web hosting. A simple installer which would have allowed web install without the need to SSH (terminal access). This was promised over and over to eventually come by the first release and folks have been waiting since 2015 (it's about to be 2018) for your first release (3yrs) and now you release a roadmap outlining that there will be no new development concerning the install until the 2nd release, while you also are asking for funding. -- I do not see the logic or value at this time in supporting or waiting further (sorry).

I am really disappointed as I really was hoping for Flarum. But as you would exclude most folks within your 1st release and there is no telling how long of a wait for your 2nd release, since we have waited 3 years, I cannot find a defensible position which I could bring to my clients concerning, Flarum.

    GOD what about the amazing Pockethold and Bazaar extensions ? Now that the community built these tools core developers can focus on actual forum features and bugfixes instead of an installer that will probably need a full rewrite for stable anyway ?

        clarkwinkelmann Extensions are meaningless if you cannot even install the core.

        The problem is the early alpha and beta had a web installer and for unknown reasons they removed it. It was promised over and over with each new (beta) release that it would be worked out before the 1st stable release. Some of us have been supporting Flarum for a while now and not just in spirit. 3 years of waiting and standing by in defense of Flarum, only to feel as though we've been slapped in the face. -- Game over.

            GOD stop crying, there are many guides about how install flarum in a share hosting, even there is an installer here, and three years are more than enough to learn how to do it in a vps...

                When will the stable version be released?
                The next version is beta 8. And after that version?

                  dertin Your answer is at the end of the first post.

                  Toby As we keep saying, Flarum is built by volunteers in their spare time. The bad news is that we can't give an ETA on future releases, other than to say it'll be at least a few months between each of them.

                      Thanks for the updated roadmap. Really can't wait to use this in production but will hold off until stable & with shared hosting installer.

                      how toby manages to write codes as he studies medical....? just asking ?

                      23 days later

                      Gonna follow this roadmap and stick with these updates and this forum. I really like how motive people here. ?

                      20 days later

                      Hi,

                      are there any updates / news on the current state of development? I could help writing faqs and documentation.

                        10 days later

                        Blueh Maybe one should stop and listen to actual potential users. I absolutely agree with @GOD ! It would be nice to see the incredible usability they put in the UI to be also in the initial installation and setup of the software.

                        "You download it and install it on your shared server". Don't mock someone for that request please... There were 588 million estimated Apple users in 2016 and I don't think they all understand exactly how the code works...

                            Drilling-Billy how is the number of Apple users related to this? If you think anyone should be able to deploy a forum and deal with databases/http server/php configuration and errors, I'm sorry but you're aiming at something that should be actually avoided.

                                matteocontrini If you think anyone should be able to deploy a forum [...] that should be actually avoided.

                                IMO forums should be available to anyone, not just sysadmins. Why shouldn't we work towards this goal? Otherwise, the online discussion space is lost to Facebook, Reddit and Twitter who managed to make it available to anyone already.

                                Edit: Which isn't to say that we should build shared hosting installers. If Flarum aspires availability to everyone, perhaps setting up a free Flarum SaaS is the way to go ?

                                However, my opinion is not very relevant. The project owners should define such meta goals to focus development efforts.

                                    matteocontrini That's the irony in your comment right there. You are seeing databases, http servers, PHP etc... You are thinking in code while some people are thinking in selling products and have a simple-to-implement forum software for their users to communicate with each other and the company to maintain.

                                    But Sanguine is correct, it is not up to us. But that is the crux of the problem also... We don't know for who they will design Flarum. It's "Forums Made Simple", but we all differ in the interpretation of simple... ;-)

                                    Until now though the Techy contributors on this forum are far exceeding the Usability People and that just makes some people like @GOD ask logical questions.

                                        I just thought I'd highlight that no post is ignored or overlooked. Each and every comment is read and the development team endeavour to do whatever they can in their busy schedules to deliver Flarum on a platter like we all expect.

                                        Whilst I agree that everyone has a different interpretation of the term simple, there are many different types of forum software that cater to different subjects and projects purely from the way they work and the reason why they were created. No forum software is going to provide everything that everyone asks for, so the things that Flarum may lack can be picked up in the form of an extension or hopefully implemented in the core later down the road.

                                        It's human nature really.

                                        As a very simple example, I know someone that loves and uses XenForo 1.0, but absolutely hates XenForo 2.0 despite it being the exact same developers. Things transition and change according to the developers and as a consumer if you are against it, find a way to change it or use another forum software that caters more to what you want and need. I have personally chosen a forum software that I actually didn't like when compared to others (SMF) but I made the decision to use it for one reason, it had a supported shop and points modification/extension available that was essential for my community.

                                        The job now is to iron out as many bugs and errors as possible and aim our sights on that stable release. ?

                                        I don't mind the installation process or a feature or 2 missing. I just would like to see releases more often than once a year. Smaller, more frequent releases give a feeling of momentum.