Russian Language Pack

Dmitrii

Парни, всем привет, а как эту локализацию в докере накатить ? Сделал composer install в контейнере, но из админики значка русского языка не вижу.

KaiKimera

Dmitrii честно, не знаю. В докере я не разворачивал движок. Подождём, может есть кто уже это делал. Или можно спросить в глобальном сообществе.

Vadim_RUNN

Dmitrii а где ожидается значок? В разделе Расширения язык появился?

Dmitrii

KaiKimera Делать было нечего и я разобрался, может кому понадобится ) Команда выглядит примерно вот так: docker exec -it e5a3013df034 sh -c "cd flarum/app && composer require flarum-lang/russian

Dmitrii

Vadim_RUNN Да, верно, мы устанавливает расширение через composer и в интерфейсе админки появляется иконка русского языка

Gorm

Finally 🙂 I am just find a little "mismatch" in translation, which confuses people.

Title of the sort order duplicated, but results are different. Seems first sort by answers and second one sort by views.

Views counting is not default possibility of the Flarum. It was added with Flarum Simple Discussion Views with additional sort orders.

I cant say how it can be translated more correctly for excluding duplication. No version at all. I am just continue to use it "as is", but, of course, users ask about this.

Gorm

KaiKimera it was fixed, but other translations changed ("нравится" => "оценили").

Вы, …. и 20 другим оценили это.

Something need to revert back.

KaiKimera

Gorm Which option is the most correct?
I think "оценили" would be most correct. I'll correct the phrase later.

Gorm

KaiKimera in my humble opinion, "нравится" is the nearest and most correct translations for "like".

Also there are one more phrase bellow after pressing: "Не нравится". So, if you prefer to translate like "одобряю" then you must replace "Нравится/Не нравится" with "Одобряю/Не одобряю".

But Like and Agree are not the same. I am voting for like ("нравится").

In general, it is not principal. I seen some translated modules with "одобряю" (BBHide content containing the phrase "Вы должны ОДОБРИТЬ это сообщение для просмотра"). So, if this translations some kind of compromise - its not a problem.

KaiKimera

Gorm
Let's see what others say.
But I don't like the word "ОДОБРИТЬ". It's like moderating a message - "ОДОБРИТЬ" - allowing it to be published. We need to come up with other words for such extensions. 🙂

For example, "Вы должны ОЦЕНИТЬ это сообщение для просмотра." This is where the word "ОЦЕНИТЬ" fits. 🙂

Gorm

KaiKimera we are discuss it several times already (about like) 🙂 Somebody must to take an advantage in this question (maintainers). If it didn't met any opposing - all fine. I am just pointing to wrong sentence. Pull request still open as I can see.

KaiKimera

Gorm Pull request still open as I can see.

Yes, I made this request. While it's hanging. I'm thinking about the wording now.

As far as I remember, the original option was "нравиться". After discussions - "оценить".

There are several options for solving the problem. And, depending on the options for solving the problem, we can maintain compatibility with the structure of the original English file, or move away from it.

And now I’m thinking about how best to proceed.

KaiKimera

It's easier with English. But with Russian it’s more complicated, there are many declensions, many pronunciations of numbers and so on. 🙂

Developers also make so-called “refs”, links to other words and phrases located in other files. And by changing one such “ref”, you can change the meaning of phrases in different parts of the translation.

KaiKimera

I leave the “оценили” option. I change the ref "другим" to "других".

If you change it to “нравится” and leave it as “другим”, then there will be problems with flarum-mentions.yml. Because "другим" is a ref, and is used in two places. I don't want to break the structure of the language file and delete refs.

Please check the correctness of the phrases in the "mentions" module. When "*** ответили на это сообщение.". Must be "*** и 62 других ответили на это сообщение."

Gorm

KaiKimera

Upgrading flarum-lang/russian (1.35.1 => 1.35.2)

I will check the behavior and let you know if I got any mismatches.

Gorm

KaiKimera no any problem detected. It will fine with likes and also with mentions. Thank you!

Gorm

KaiKimera I change the ref "другим" to "других".

It was broken again. Second time.. Maybe third.. Or maybe this problem related not to Russian Language Pack v1.37.0 but to Flarum 1.8.8?

Вы, Natashka, Soffia и 41 другой оценили это.

APlife

2FA (ДФА) - это аббревиатура. Так же как F2P например, её переводить не стоит мне кажется.

Osmxnxn

Подскажите, перевод плагина геймификации тоже входит в этот пак? Там переведено как «Одобрено», хотя больше по смыслу подходит «Лайков» или что-то подобное.

KaiKimera

Osmxnxn симпатий тогда уж, наверно.

Capybara

UPD. Всё починил

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