Suspended user should have a badge visible also to the public

clarkwinkelmann

Additionally I think "last online" continues to update even if you're suspended. You can still login and it will update your last online time. This could make it seems like the profile is active even if it was suspended a long time ago 😅

tankerkiller125

clarkwinkelmann Should we adjust how suspended users are handled then? Flarum is the only software I know of that suspended/banned users are able to continue logging in. I feel like maybe that should change so that they can't log in at all.

clarkwinkelmann

tankerkiller125 I feel like adding additional logic in the Suspend extension isn't really necessary.

I like the current approach. The Suspend extension hooks into the system, and removes all rights.

Maybe we could turn login into a gated permission, so that extensions that hook into the gate/policy system can easily do it as well.

peopleinside

tankerkiller125 I agree with that.

I think will be better block the user from the login and show the banned reason instead to let user login, be online, and have just a notification on top about why they cannot post.

Is not really clear... user log in, are able to login but see all button disabled and no message just a generic notification the account is suspended.

Mark73

tankerkiller125 I agree with disallowing suspended users from logging in at all. Plus having a suspended badge visible to the public. At least that's how it is most suitable for my case...

In any case, suspended users shouldn't appear as regular online users.

EDIT: It's funny that a suspended user might not notice that he is suspended as there is no possible way to know other than a notification which, in some cases, might not be viewed. This will cause some kind of confusion for the user, finding himself unable to interact with the community.

peopleinside

clarkwinkelmann Yes true, maybe another issue... for this is strange Flarum suspend user are able to login.
Usually a ban don't let the user login.

IF an user suspended has some group or access to reserved labels created by an admin and is suspended from a moderator that has no access to this labels the user still be able to login and read the reserved content.

When user is suspended because has done something not good user still be this user online, no banned badge also last visit will be updated all time and if user has special badge that give access to reserved label will be still able to read, access this content.

clarkwinkelmann

peopleinside the user still be able to login and read the reserved content

That's not supposed to be possible. When you are banned, you can still login, but you have the same access as guests. If you can see restricted content while being suspended it's a bug and should be reported.

elderven

peopleinside I think it is fine to allow login for suspended users but general message for user about ban reason seems like a must have for me.

Is there any "workaround" atm to allow visibility of suspend badge to all users?

Littlegolden

I think there should be two cases. One is to ban users, but to permanently ban (delete) users.

Ban users (whether permanent or temporary)
- The user is banned and cannot participate in any interaction on the forum, including but not limited to replying, posting, liking, and following others.
- On the user's profile page, "This user is banned due to violation of ******."
Permanently block (delete) users
- The user severely violates laws and other rules, giving the most severe punishment: permanently delete the account.

peopleinside

elderven

Is there any "workaround" atm to allow visibility of suspend badge to all users?

Not at the moment i think. You can only create manually a group with a badge that should be assigned manually at the suspended user who for admin will have two badges: one visible to only admin and one visible to all.

hrvoje_hr

+1 for this.

Banned badge should be visible to all user. Just had a big confusion about that in my community. I wasn't aware that regular users don't see it.

IanM

hrvoje_hr Banned badge should be visible to all user.

AlastairNixon +1 for this.

This is very subjective. I know forums that would be horrified to know the suspension status was shared publically.

If this was ever a feature, IMO it should be a setting, which is disabled by default. This could also be implemented as a small extension for those forums which want to display it

andreagdipaolo

hrvoje_hr Banned badge should be visible to all user.

I totally agree.
But it should be optional and opt-in.

AlastairNixon

+1 for this.

Suspended user should be able to see that their status is set to banned when they login and not just the notification, and you should be able to add a reason for the ban that only the user sees when they recieve it

matteocontrini

Is there a GitHub issue to track the change of making the suspension badge public? I can't find it.

AlastairNixon this was just implemented for 1.2.0: flarum/suspend41

Umutcan

The username of the suspended user must be crossed out. Just an icon is not enough

Matteo

I tried to solve this problem developing this extension: https://discuss.flarum.org/d/32350.
I hope you'll find it useful.

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