Multi-language content

arajdon

jordanjay29 The language itself is not a topic and should not "waste" any secondary tags.

Plus, flarum tagging is very basic and has not any functions of rules or extended inherence. (What I a little mad of.)

Consider following:

language filtering: there could be user that don't want to see specific languages in their "All discussions"
one discussion = one language: if configured user are able to set multiple secondary tags
intuitive interface/language settings
seo: right html headers for discussion
...

arajdon

Razor see arajdon

Zeokat

jordanjay29 The proper way to do this is: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/189077

Pandry

Ok,
So when you create a thread the forum could look at the language currently in use and make the thread visible only to people with the same language (and maybe there could be an option to see all the threads)...
Is it a better approach?

arajdon

Pandry In first place, i would show all languages. And if the user wants to, he should be able to select (in the easiest way possible) which he wants.

It's also needed to configure what langs are possible to use. I don't want any other langs except english, germand and polish because I am not able to administer them.

Pandry

arajdon How about support all the languages currently in use in the forum?
And there could be the possibility to see all the languages by ticking a checkbox in the language selection, am I wrong?
I was thinking to something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/Og9Q2i4.png

arajdon

Pandry the question is if flarum is able to determine language. Like does it know that the language pack English is actually English..? do you get me?

jordanjay29

arajdon no, it trusts that language set to en-** is English. Same for any of them.

Pandry

jordanjay29 Ok, but in theory if the selected language is Italian for example, shouldn't it be like it-IT?

arajdon

Pandry not only in theory

SWolf

Hi, I am building a beta forum for sports lovers in two languages. I could live with both lang in the same forum IF i could translate the categories and links ( so I would avoid having two separate forums with two diff members list when I know that most speaks both lang). For now i'll separate them and merge them later if I get into a kind of php_e ( txt to translate) and .po files like WP

Razor

Why not try with using tags?
Probably, a script that would sort by tags can be made, so if user choose english, it will show discussions with english tag, etc.

Razor

arajdon
Maybe, google translate plugin will do than?
Search in google for that, complete a setup process and than paste a code in custom header.

arajdon

Razor It's not about translating content, it's about having a multilingual community.

kmk

Invisionpower has pritty good with multilingual feature, today all platform or software, all apps should be done thinking in english speakers, spanish speakers, chinese speakers.....and others...expansion...

Pandry

Ok, after a while I'm back...
I thought a lot about how to overcome to my issue and I believe I found a solution.
I would use 2 (or more) flarum instances.
Both will use 2 different databases, but I would love to share the users between the databases...
I think I'll write a plugin or something, since so far I'm liking flarum the most (compared to solutions like Discourse, NodeBB and others ones).
Otherwhise I'll make a forum software on my one (even if I don't like the idea...)

ahrasis

Pandry I would love to share the users between the databases

Personally I would prefer single database rather than sharing users between databases so my preferred approach will be multi flarum forum with single database. With it content based on language can be separated via different tag. Just a thought though.

arajdon

Don't think that 2 instances would do this.

In fact it would be "enough" to add in the database a column to the "first post" and assign it a language.

Then you just need to grab the users current language or his preferences, to filter all first posts according to the users setting.

Pandry

arajdon Don't think that 2 instances would do this.

I believe it's the easiest way if I need to write down a plugin.
(I did not see the Flarum plugin working system, so I might be wrong).
Anyway, I believe this could be a core-functionality to add.

lb308

I think it can be done with bbcode for example in the tilte and body we can use :
[EN]Hello I am a post.[/EN]
[FR]Salut je suis un article.[FR]
If we change the locale it will show just one langauge.

Pandry

lb308 I think it can be done with bbcode for example in the tilte and body we can use :
[EN]Hello I am a post.[/EN]
[FR]Salut je suis un article.[FR]

But this would mean that every user should know all the other languages...
In my opinion, there are too possible issues.

ahrasis Personally I would prefer single database rather than sharing users between databases so my preferred approach will be multi flarum forum with single database

An approach like WordPress' one could be taken, adding a prefix to the tables, but I'm not a fan anymore of the tags...
I believe that 2 languages should require 2 different communities, but with a common userbase (so I can be Pandry on both of them).

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