The Brazilian Portuguese "translation" is an absurd

tolgaaaltas

mercurius not recommended, when you update the language pack via terminal, any changes you have made will revert to the original. Use Linguist for this.

mercurius

tolgaaaltas I mean exporting to the Flarum translation mainline.

rob006

@mercurius Do you have particular examples of these "absurd translations"? You can't edit them, because they're marked as verified, but I can mark them as unverified.

/cc @ram0ng1

mercurius

rob006 Who verified it?

rob006

mercurius Probably maintainer of this language pack.

mercurius

rob006 Then he can't write in Portuguese, much less translate, much less verify.

And this is something very serious. What if I setup a serious forum and someone reads that? I would be very ashamed. He clearly can't write in Portuguese. Not only the translation is wrong, sometimes even the opposite to what is written (eg., disabled/ to disable) and those errors in Portuguese aren't typos, he clearly can't write.

This is very irresponsible of his behalf, to publish something having no idea of what he is doing.

EDIT: he writes it wrong, not even mistakenly, then proofreads, can't identify his own misspellings and in the final is still able to verify as correct. Almost funny.

rob006

mercurius This is a community-driven project. If translations are incorrect, the best you can do is to fix them. Even if you can't edit them directly, you can still make a suggestion, and someone will look at it. Complaining on the forum won't improve anything.

ram0ng1

mercurius

Esse pacote de tradução me foi útil durante bastante tempo. Depois que vários das extensões do Flarum foram atualizadas (inclusive o núcleo do Flarum), não consegui mais manter nada. Desde então tudo se encontra uma bagunça mesmo. (Justamente por simplesmente usar a "Tradução recomendada" do weblate. )

Quando se fala se trabalho em comunidade, oque temos que fazer é apenas agradecer oque temos ou caso deseja, melhorar a já existente.

Se deseja criar um pacote de idioma "profissional", fique à-vontade.

This translation pack has been useful for a long time. After several of Flarum's functions were updated (the core of Flarum), I could no longer maintain. Since then, everything has been a mess. (Precisely for simply using the weblate's "Recommended Translation".)

When talking, what we have to do is just thank what we have or, if we want, improve the existing one.

If you want to create a "professional" language pack, feel free.

ram0ng1

@rob006

Be sure to pass repository (flarum-lang/brazilian) authority to the @mercuryseries

rob006

ram0ng1 I'll mark all translations as unverified, so community can fix translations without any limitations. We'll see if someone will want to maintain it, but until then anyone should be able to contribute translations.

mercurius

rob006 I accept to maintain it.

rob006

mercurius Actually @ram0ng1 has been restored to maintainer position few days ago, and I don't think we need another maintainer now, sorry. But you can contribute translations as regular user. You need maintainer permissions only to edit verified translations, which should not be needed in most cases.

mercurius

rob006 No problem, in this case I will maintain my own translation for my personal use.

ram0ng1

mercurius
~~I call it "to be mean-spirited"... It just complains and doesn't help.~~

@rob006 I did a local install and I was seeing where my translation errors were. I noticed that I missed an "i" instead of an "e"... All this caused our "friend" to revolt.

@rob006 To solve this impasse, we can put the @mercurius to check the translations. As for me, I will stay as a regular user. 😉

mercurius

ram0ng1 I noticed that I missed an "i" instead of an "e"... All this caused our "friend" to revolt.

Oh, do you swear?

ram0ng1 I could no longer maintain. Since then, everything has been a mess. (Precisely for simply using the weblate's "Recommended Translation".)

mercurius

Given what @rob006 said, I retire my offer to maintain. I really don't have time for it.

ram0ng1

mercurius Oh, do you swear?

no... 🤦
I don't think you know the meaning of community work.

"Well, if you want to help..."

mercurius

Community is an actual excuse to do irresponsible shit. If you can't translate, that's ok, but don't do it. It is irresponsible. See, you (and mr. robber) stole my translation and mr. Biagi's and even took out our names from the translators. No problem for me, BUT, if it were to use the autotranslate from weblate, the maintainers could do it.

EDIT: community? ok, but don't do irresponsible shit. BTW, the portuguese translation is MINE, I was about to translate everything da capo ad fine. Stop being a parasite. I would translate even to you, as I did to a lot of forums, no problem.

luceos

mercurius I flagged your posts with our mods a couple of times before because I disagree how you have interacted here. It's disrespectful.

If you have an issue with being left out from being credited, you can raise that respectfully with the maintainer or the language coordinator. If you identify incorrect translations, you're welcome to help improve them. But attacking someone who took responsibility over a language pack is not the way.

I highly recommend you read the community guidelines (https://discuss.flarum.org/d/859-flarum-community-guidelines).

luceos

mercurius See, you (and mr. robber) stole my translation and mr. Biagi's and even took out our names from the translators.

Your language pack wasn't updated since 2016 and the license holder for your extension is actually Toby Zerner: https://github.com/iacchus/flarum-brazilian-portuguese/blob/master/LICENSE. So realistically if anyone should have been credited, it would have been him.

Please don't come barging in here after 6 years to claim rights to something you worked on for a month or so, never to look at again. Blaming someone who consistently worked on the language pack for over a year.

mercurius BTW, the portuguese translation is MINE

You are free to maintain your own language pack, this is open source. You can create and publish extensions on packagist however you see fit. But claiming a certain language and causing strife, instead of collaborating with other Portuguese Flarum enthusiasts isn't the way how open source works nor is a good representation of the warm and welcoming community we foster here.

mercurius

luceos I am out of the community, please don't mention me anymore.

EDIT: the other guy mentioned me, please don't do it anymore.